Now I DO KNOW someone that could potentially find something that could actually lead us further to finding out what the original show is. GreenMetalThing: dubdb.fandom.com/wiki/User:GreenMetalThing He even has a YouTube account called "GreenShieldy": www.youtube.com/@shieldwithagreentint He has done an INSANE amount of research into finding weird & rare dubs of cartoons like Space Cats, Earthworm Jim, Fat Dog Mendoza, Emergency +4, etc., so he could of potential help. Well, theoretically that is. I don't really think we'd be able to talk to him about this directly per se, but he could just accidentally stumble upon some Doremi cartoon almost nobody's seen in years or even decades if we're patient. Heck, perhaps through using some of the links he had given out when looking for some dubs we could get somewhere on this bizarre case.
For example, this obscure Georgian(as in, the language from the Caucasus country) voice-over of Duck Dodgers he found on Dailymotion: www.dailymotion.com/video/x6dfk17
Oh wow visited his page and what a collection! He would be a great reference for sure.
Not sure if he's Australian, but it would be great if we could get some Australian comments too, like who would know what was airing around the time that Doremi is claimed to have aired.
Now I DO KNOW someone that could potentially find something that could actually lead us further to finding out what the original show is. GreenMetalThing: dubdb.fandom.com/wiki/User:GreenMetalThing He even has a YouTube account called "GreenShieldy": www.youtube.com/@shieldwithagreentint He has done an INSANE amount of research into finding weird & rare dubs of cartoons like Space Cats, Earthworm Jim, Fat Dog Mendoza, Emergency +4, etc., so he could of potential help. Well, theoretically that is. I don't really think we'd be able to talk to him about this directly per se, but he could just accidentally stumble upon some Doremi cartoon almost nobody's seen in years or even decades if we're patient. Heck, perhaps through using some of the links he had given out when looking for some dubs we could get somewhere on this bizarre case.
For example, this obscure Georgian(as in, the language from the Caucasus country) voice-over of Duck Dodgers he found on Dailymotion: www.dailymotion.com/video/x6dfk17
Oh wow visited his page and what a collection! He would be a great reference for sure.
Not sure if he's Australian, but it would be great if we could get some Australian comments too, like who would know what was airing around the time that Doremi is claimed to have aired.
Considering the potential levels of obscurity that cartoon would've been, very few people would remember it most likely. That said, GreenShieldy seems to be good at finding stuff, so he could very well find something good out of some Aussie TV schedule archives from 1999. Not sure if GreenShieldy is Australian though. Probably not, but his profile doesn't say anything about where he's from.
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Thank you so much for all your hard work! I have seen nothing new in regards to the situation myself, so I appreciate ANY aid whatsoever. Still leaning towards the Australian TV guide referencing a completely different Doremi, possibly a European import show. The TV Tropes blurb, I still have no clue about, unless they are mistaken with a different dub of the show, though I think none of them were canceled for "offensive content," more just lack of viewership and merch sales.
Thought you would've noticed, but you said "Australian TV guide" instead of that Kidscreen article.
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Post by extremewreck2000 on Nov 23, 2023 12:31:55 GMT
Woah, I managed to get this as an entry on this iceberg: icebergcharts.com/i/Mega_Western_Animated_Shows_and_Specials_Mysteries_and_Urban_Myths The entry is called "Mid-Late 1990s "Doremi" Cartoon" & it's in the 11th tier. Considering how many views it seems to get every day, we could get some potential helpers. I'm a contributor on this iceberg while cTgman is the creator of it.
Woah, I managed to get this as an entry on this iceberg: icebergcharts.com/i/Mega_Western_Animated_Shows_and_Specials_Mysteries_and_Urban_Myths The entry is called "Mid-Late 1990s "Doremi" Cartoon" & it's in the 11th tier. Considering how many views it seems to get every day, we could get some potential helpers. I'm a contributor on this iceberg while cTgman is the creator of it.
Oh, this is awesome, both the news and the iceberg. This makes me so happy!
Woah, I managed to get this as an entry on this iceberg: icebergcharts.com/i/Mega_Western_Animated_Shows_and_Specials_Mysteries_and_Urban_Myths The entry is called "Mid-Late 1990s "Doremi" Cartoon" & it's in the 11th tier. Considering how many views it seems to get every day, we could get some potential helpers. I'm a contributor on this iceberg while cTgman is the creator of it.
Oh, this is awesome, both the news and the iceberg. This makes me so happy!
The only "English dub" that exist is 4kids magical Doremi adaptation of series 1. Maybe there was an alternate pilot but that's it.
Did we ever confirm what the Singapore dub was?
The Singaporean English dub has been confirmed to be an early dub of Ojamajo Doremi & Blue Water(the budget studio for The Ocean Group) did a pilot dub of the series. It's this "Aussie dub" that this thread is about that we have no idea what it is because so little actual info exists & most of it is speculation from many, including me of course.
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Post by extremewreck2000 on Dec 23, 2023 4:29:05 GMT
I was thinking of perhaps making a Lost Media Wiki article on this, but I felt that it would be frowned upon on there due to me being the insane one, so I decided to be safe & edit an old Lost Media Archive page about this rumored thing... but apparently my well done reworking is considered "spam" automatically just so these folks can keep making awful pages without receiving any backlash(such cowards), so to heck with THAT idea.
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Post by extremewreck2000 on Dec 23, 2023 5:09:24 GMT
You know what may be the big problem with trying to figure out what this dub truly is? It's the fact that the Kidscreen article's mention of it seems too... NORMAL. Like, it mentions Toei, it says it's about a girl who solves problems with magical powers & friends, & that's about it on the details. It isn't much to really go on & there are several other shows like that, but Ojamajo Doremi is ONE OF THOSE SHOWS, thus it ends up being relatively normal. Really, the only bit that can be seen as weird is it airing on ABC TV in Australia on March of 1999, but while it sounds very fake, that doesn't mean it's that weird. It just sounds a little odd, but not weird. Really, it is just your regular average brief coverage of something new airing on that network, nothing is truly out of the ordinary here.
Now, if it were a bit more descriptive or had some truly strange descriptions that would throw off anyone who's seen Ojamajo Doremi season 1, like say, the show taking place in Flevoland(a province in the Netherlands), Doremi being of the magical warrior type seen in shows like Sailor Moon or, to really throw someone off, say that Doremi is a BOY. Like, at least one of these fascinatingly oddball descriptions would at least give us a possible clue as to what it really is. But NOPE, it's just your generic brief description of a newly airing show... and yet the fact that it's a generic brief description is what's truly perplexing to me since it doesn't give us ANY IDEA on where to go from there! It's like a Sierra adventure game; you have to make your own map & just keep doing random crap until you find the answer, which is likely solved through some really obtuse way that requires TONS of experimenting on everything. Yeah... not that easy of a solution.
(and no, I'm not taking the ABC station of TV Tokyo as an answer now, that would be a bit too easy for it to be the case(and would probably still have some pieces be missing) considering the sheer vagueness, yet perplexing weirdness of the mention. If I have to go Sierra mode in order to solve this mystery, then I. FREAKIN'. WILL! I mean, for jeez louise sake, I already kinda have with me guessing possible names of the possible original name of this show!)
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Post by extremewreck2000 on Dec 25, 2023 6:26:43 GMT
So I was looking on the Internet Archive for some answers & searching around led me to the 2003 4Kids Licensing Booklet, which had a page on Magical DoReMi, but here's the thing about this page: archive.org/details/4kods-licensing-booklet-2003/page/7/mode/2up?q=magical+doremi&view=theater Dorie is named Doremi like how she was in the original series(the 2 other characters' names are unknown during this time of development on the dub) & most dubs... yet the logo, although more closely resembling the original Japanese logo, STILL has the R & M capitalized. That is also the logo used for several other dubs & yet are more faithful than the 4Kids dub. Not sure if the Singaporean English dub uses that exact logo, but it's possible.
Now, I do know that do, re, & mi are the names of the first 3 notes of a scale, but "Doremi" IS a name, if a very rare one, so could it be that Toei wanted to name it "Magical Doremi" for international markets, but couldn't because someone else might've owned the trademark to that, so they capitalized the M & R to skirt their away around the issue? Perhaps 4Kids decided to change the names of the main 3 to Dorie, Reanne & Mirabelle in order to further distance the show from whoever trademarked "Magical Doremi", likely after hearing from Toei about that?
I know that GokaiOrange used USPTO for looking up trademarks for the company, Educational Adventures LLC(the company behind Danger Rangers), but there's a possible chance that it might not be on there since, like I said, this could've been some Western European cartoon. Maybe they DO have trademarks & patents that foreign companies have put in the US, but I'm not sure on that.
Oddly enough, the FRENCH dub's title doesn't have the capitalization, instead just having the title in all caps. This might not mean much, but it could potentially rule out this mysterious show being from France or Quebec(Canada) or having aired in said countries(in the case of Canada, they have law which says that 60% of stuff on TV has to be Canadian, though voice-overs may count).
But even weirder is that the Taiwanese Mandarin dub's title is only HALF-Chinese written: the other half says "DoReMi", so this show could've aired in Taiwan at some point? Probably not, but far more bizarre things have happened, so who knows?
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So I was looking on the Internet Archive for some answers & searching around led me to the 2003 4Kids Licensing Booklet, which had a page on Magical DoReMi, but here's the thing about this page: archive.org/details/4kods-licensing-booklet-2003/page/7/mode/2up?q=magical+doremi&view=theater Dorie is named Doremi like how she was in the original series(the 2 other characters' names are unknown during this time of development on the dub) & most dubs... yet the logo, although more closely resembling the original Japanese logo, STILL has the R & M capitalized. That is also the logo used for several other dubs & yet are more faithful than the 4Kids dub. Not sure if the Singaporean English dub uses that exact logo, but it's possible.
Now, I do know that do, re, & mi are the names of the first 3 notes of a scale, but "Doremi" IS a name, if a very rare one, so could it be that Toei wanted to name it "Magical Doremi" for international markets, but couldn't because someone else might've owned the trademark to that, so they capitalized the M & R to skirt their away around the issue? Perhaps 4Kids decided to change the names of the main 3 to Dorie, Reanne & Mirabelle in order to further distance the show from whoever trademarked "Magical Doremi", likely after hearing from Toei about that?
I know that GokaiOrange used USPTO for looking up trademarks for the company, Educational Adventures LLC(the company behind Danger Rangers), but there's a possible chance that it might not be on there since, like I said, this could've been some Western European cartoon. Maybe they DO have trademarks & patents that foreign companies have put in the US, but I'm not sure on that.
Oddly enough, the FRENCH dub's title doesn't have the capitalization, instead just having the title in all caps. This might not mean much, but it could potentially rule out this mysterious show being from France or Quebec(Canada) or having aired in said countries(in the case of Canada, they have law which says that 60% of stuff on TV has to be Canadian, though voice-overs may count).
But even weirder is that the Taiwanese Mandarin dub's title is only HALF-Chinese written: the other half says "DoReMi", so this show could've aired in Taiwan at some point? Probably not, but far more bizarre things have happened, so who knows?
Doremi is ULTRA popular in Taiwan, curiously enough. I think they got all the seasons and the new movie. That said, I doubt they got any English dubs of the show, I think even Animax is Chinese dubs. It is possible that their HBO style movie channels (often original language woth subtitles) got some weird stuff though.
i can probably find Magical Doremi disc's with the Australian Classification on it or any episodes with the classsification on it
I doubt that it had a home media release of any kind. Whatever the heck this... thing is, there is a likely chance that it barely had a chance to exist & was never seen again after its last TV airing in wherever.
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