That’s kind of illegal. If you’re referring to the despecialized editions, they are available to the public through torrenting so there’s no reason to “release” them, especially since you’d be stealing someone’s special work.
That’s kind of illegal. If you’re referring to the despecialized editions, they are available to the public through torrenting so there’s no reason to “release” them, especially since you’d be stealing someone’s special work.
Most of Lost Media is nothing but asking someone to upload or share copyrighted work are you serious right now?
Yes, we illegally upload lost stuff because we want to get it back out into the sunlight and we have no other options to do so. But there's not really a point to upload something that's not lost.
That’s exactly what I meant. Sorry for the confusion didn’t mean to come off rude or anything. The main theatrical cuts are not lost which means there’s no point in uploading them anywhere since others have. The 70mm version of Empire Strikes Back is the only actual lost one from what I know so if you have that version many people would be happy to see it.
Post by wadmodderpudu on Oct 19, 2019 18:01:31 GMT
It has to be the film reel masters (positive or negative prints) not the so called bonus GOUT DVDs released by Lucasfilm and 20th Century Fox in 2006 or Harmy's Despecialized Editions, the former was based on the 1993 Definitive Collection Laserdisc releases with ANH modified without the subtitle, with motion smearing, washed out colors, and letterboxed picture in Non-anamorphic, which made 16:9 TVs have pillarboxes on the sides, I seriously think that 4K TVs do the same as well with the GOUT DVD. As for the latter, well it's mostly trying to reconstruct the original theatrical versions of the films in modern HD standards by mostly using the 1993 Laserdiscs with most Special Edition sources.
So therefore, Home Media releases of films (VHS, BetaMax, Video 2000, CED, Laserdisc: regular & MUSE, VCD, DVD, D-Theater, HD DVD, & Blu-ray: regular, 3D or 4K) cannot be classified as film masters, prints or positives/negatives, as they are usually a bit lower to medium quality compared to film reel masters and master tapes.
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Post by wadmodderpudu on Jan 19, 2020 17:01:43 GMT
Also, the original theatrical versions only exist on home video on VHS, BetaMax, CED, Laserdisc, Video 2000 in Europe only, and the 2006 bonus GOUT DVD, and no other formats after the GOUT DVD. As for the 1997 special edition, it only exists on VHS, Laserdisc, and Video CD. The 2004 special edition only exists on DVD, and was also repackaged many times until the 2008 Prequel Trilogy & Original Trilogy sets. 2011 special edition exists on both Blu-ray, DVD, and was at one point an official digital download via Disney Movies Anywhere. 2019 special edition is currently only available on Disney+.
So official higher quality film reels (outside of fan efforts, like Harmy's Despecialized Editions and Team Negative One) are unlikely to resurface (though any footage could had appeared on CNN's documentary about movies in the 70s, 80s, 90s, and presumably the 2000s if you guys can extract the footage). And the 70mm version of The Empire Strikes Back is unlikely to appear in any American film archives or will ever appear as a film reel on Ebay.
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I feel like this is a huge topic that's been done to death in Star Wars circles already. Each Star Wars release was marginally different, even featuring different soundtracks between the 33mm and 70mm prints. In other words, the home video releases from the 90s were a new release with changes added and never shown in theaters (predating the Special Editions).
I'd love the original 1977 presentation in mono (IMO this is the version that had the largest impact), but it's been a losing battle. Fans have ripped various film prints and traded them in circles. Though there's really no way to obtain them because it's still considered piracy, and even owning such prints is illegal.
Post by theCarbonFreeze on Jun 4, 2020 7:16:20 GMT
You'd think Disney would get the ball rolling on this. I understand Lucas has some weird personal hangup about the unaltered original trilogy but the benefit of having Disney own the brand was supposed to be that they're a monolithic company who follows fan demand. And yet, here we are almost 10 years since the purchase and still no word about a cleaned up official unaltered re-release. The demand is clearly there, and don't tell me the negatives are too badly damaged. It's goddamned Star Wars, the most popular franchise ever--surely someone somewhere has a usable print of the films which could be restored. I'd bet there are professional film restoration teams who love these movies so much they'd do it for free--and if not, Disney certainly has the money to front.
There's no excuse for these movies not to be preserved as they were originally released.
Lucas had it in his contract for Disney not to release the originals or at least they’re keeping their respect for him by doing that. Disney was not behind the Disney+ versions, George did all that back in 2012 when every film was still supposed to receive a 3D rerelease.
Lucas had it in his contract for Disney not to release the originals or at least they’re keeping their respect for him by doing that. Disney was not behind the Disney+ versions, George did all that back in 2012 when every film was still supposed to receive a 3D rerelease.
Well, they disrespected his wishes for the sequel trilogy already, why not just go all out and at least give the fans something decent out of it.
Lucas' desire to bury his own original work is pathological at this point. I know public opinion of him has softened somewhat in the last 6 years but on this particular issue he deserves whatever flak he gets.
