Saying this as a Persona fan, I can't stand the Fandom for dozens of reasons
I've heard of how bad the fandom is, but honestly even without that those games currently aren't on my list of games to play.
They definitely aren't for everyone. Especially if you tell Persona 5 fans who your team is. 4 is easily the best, and the fans won't gut you like 5 fans.
I'm nothing but a mass of concrete yet my heart is calling my name
I've heard of how bad the fandom is, but honestly even without that those games currently aren't on my list of games to play.
They definitely aren't for everyone. Especially if you tell Persona 5 fans who your team is. 4 is easily the best, and the fans won't gut you like 5 fans.
Interestingly, I've yet to meet anyone who most likes either of the first Persona games as their "favorites." In so many other fandoms you have people who SWEAR by the first game being the "best"-try to insult the original Pokemon Red/Blue/Green games as "archaic" a decade ago and half the internet would come out of the woodwork to hate on you. In other news, I must not be in the right spaces, because I definitely don't see the toxic side of the fandom all that much. Mainly just the people who refuse to play any of the games besides 5.
They definitely aren't for everyone. Especially if you tell Persona 5 fans who your team is. 4 is easily the best, and the fans won't gut you like 5 fans.
Interestingly, I've yet to meet anyone who most likes either of the first Persona games as their "favorites." In so many other fandoms you have people who SWEAR by the first game being the "best"-try to insult the original Pokemon Red/Blue/Green games as "archaic" a decade ago and half the internet would come out of the woodwork to hate on you. In other news, I must not be in the right spaces, because I definitely don't see the toxic side of the fandom all that much. Mainly just the people who refuse to play any of the games besides 5.
I do feel like I'm in a fandom similar to this, that being the Akazukin ChaCha fandom. About like 90-95% of the fandom is seemingly only for the anime & almost no one reads the original manga despite having been fan translated to English a while back(as in, late 90s-early 2000s IIRC).
Dreams are boundless, imaginations are infinite, space is a multi-directional spiral & Akazukin ChaCha is my favorite anime
most anime fandoms- jk lol haha so funny please dont hunt me down
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Interestingly, I've yet to meet anyone who most likes either of the first Persona games as their "favorites." In so many other fandoms you have people who SWEAR by the first game being the "best"-try to insult the original Pokemon Red/Blue/Green games as "archaic" a decade ago and half the internet would come out of the woodwork to hate on you. In other news, I must not be in the right spaces, because I definitely don't see the toxic side of the fandom all that much. Mainly just the people who refuse to play any of the games besides 5.
I do feel like I'm in a fandom similar to this, that being the Akazukin ChaCha fandom. About like 90-95% of the fandom is seemingly only for the anime & almost no one reads the original manga despite having been fan translated to English a while back(as in, late 90s-early 2000s IIRC).
Candy Candy got a partial translation of the manga and plenty of fansubbed episodes, but I have met exactly ONE person in the anime fandom here in the USA who is actually familiar with it. And it's one of the most popular shoujo anime, if not anime, of ALL TIME. It's strange how one medium usurps certain titles for some reason. I think there's a whole TV tropes page about this? It had Jaws as its cover photo? ("Wait it was a BOOK???")
I do feel like I'm in a fandom similar to this, that being the Akazukin ChaCha fandom. About like 90-95% of the fandom is seemingly only for the anime & almost no one reads the original manga despite having been fan translated to English a while back(as in, late 90s-early 2000s IIRC).
Candy Candy got a partial translation of the manga and plenty of fansubbed episodes, but I have met exactly ONE person in the anime fandom here in the USA who is actually familiar with it. And it's one of the most popular shoujo anime, if not anime, of ALL TIME. It's strange how one medium usurps certain titles for some reason. I think there's a whole TV tropes page about this? It had Jaws as its cover photo? ("Wait it was a BOOK???")
Said page, Adaptation Displacement, now has an image of the Shrek book that the movie is based on, specifically a reprint with a blurb saying that it inspired the movies & musical. There's also Sequel Displacement(which I guess is what's going on with Persona) & More Popular Spin-Off(with Strong Bad Emails being a HUGE example of this particular phenomenon).
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Dreams are boundless, imaginations are infinite, space is a multi-directional spiral & Akazukin ChaCha is my favorite anime
They definitely aren't for everyone. Especially if you tell Persona 5 fans who your team is. 4 is easily the best, and the fans won't gut you like 5 fans.
Interestingly, I've yet to meet anyone who most likes either of the first Persona games as their "favorites." In so many other fandoms you have people who SWEAR by the first game being the "best"-try to insult the original Pokemon Red/Blue/Green games as "archaic" a decade ago and half the internet would come out of the woodwork to hate on you. In other news, I must not be in the right spaces, because I definitely don't see the toxic side of the fandom all that much. Mainly just the people who refuse to play any of the games besides 5.
You are so lucky. I HATE Makoto and a good chunk of the Fandom would probably do terrible things to me for it. I've seen people harassed for not liking her or Futaba.
I'm nothing but a mass of concrete yet my heart is calling my name
Interestingly, I've yet to meet anyone who most likes either of the first Persona games as their "favorites." In so many other fandoms you have people who SWEAR by the first game being the "best"-try to insult the original Pokemon Red/Blue/Green games as "archaic" a decade ago and half the internet would come out of the woodwork to hate on you. In other news, I must not be in the right spaces, because I definitely don't see the toxic side of the fandom all that much. Mainly just the people who refuse to play any of the games besides 5.
You are so lucky. I HATE Makoto and a good chunk of the Fandom would probably do terrible things to me for it. I've seen people harassed for not liking her or Futaba.
Ah those 2 do seem to be the most overly meme-d and "awwwweddddd" so I get that, and why people would be tired of them. Aesthetics wise at least, I actually DO prefer Joker over them. My ranking is that P4 has the best of 4 and 5 in terms of storyline, characters, themes, 3 has a solid storyline and a theme or 2 I enjoy, but I prefer most the characters from 4, 5 has the best style and most polished gameplay, and a few characters I like better from either 3 OR 4. So a mixed bag, but ultimately P5 just isn't my favorite, the way it is for so many people.
You are so lucky. I HATE Makoto and a good chunk of the Fandom would probably do terrible things to me for it. I've seen people harassed for not liking her or Futaba.
Ah those 2 do seem to be the most overly meme-d and "awwwweddddd" so I get that, and why people would be tired of them. Aesthetics wise at least, I actually DO prefer Joker over them. My ranking is that P4 has the best of 4 and 5 in terms of storyline, characters, themes, 3 has a solid storyline and a theme or 2 I enjoy, but I prefer most the characters from 4, 5 has the best style and most polished gameplay, and a few characters I like better from either 3 OR 4. So a mixed bag, but ultimately P5 just isn't my favorite, the way it is for so many people.
Most people say 5 is their favorite cause they refuse to play the others.
I'm nothing but a mass of concrete yet my heart is calling my name
Ah those 2 do seem to be the most overly meme-d and "awwwweddddd" so I get that, and why people would be tired of them. Aesthetics wise at least, I actually DO prefer Joker over them. My ranking is that P4 has the best of 4 and 5 in terms of storyline, characters, themes, 3 has a solid storyline and a theme or 2 I enjoy, but I prefer most the characters from 4, 5 has the best style and most polished gameplay, and a few characters I like better from either 3 OR 4. So a mixed bag, but ultimately P5 just isn't my favorite, the way it is for so many people.
Most people say 5 is their favorite cause they refuse to play the others.
Reminds me of trend hoppers & how they refuse to talk about things that aren't hugely popular. I hate those people so much.
Dreams are boundless, imaginations are infinite, space is a multi-directional spiral & Akazukin ChaCha is my favorite anime
Post by extremewreck2000 on Aug 4, 2024 0:53:42 GMT
The Bubsy fandom is usually not too bad actually, but like, I don't get the people who love Bubsy 3D unironically. I literally saw a video whose description was something about how that user doesn't get people who hate Bubsy 3D are also the same people who like LSD Dream Emulator or Yume Nikki & to that I say, WHAT THE HECK IS THAT GUY ON ABOUT!? They're not even remotely similar in quality or in design philosophy(in which saying that B3D follows any design philosophy would be more generous than saying that drinking 200 pounds of mega toxic fumes is healthy).
Dreams are boundless, imaginations are infinite, space is a multi-directional spiral & Akazukin ChaCha is my favorite anime
There aren't any fandoms that I hate, but I will say this: I am a furry and while I overall enjoy it, lately there are some aspects of it that I dislike that are becoming more common.
I don't want to leave the fandom altogether, but many individuals and groups in the fandom have made me want to distance myself a bit and enter other fandoms too.
This is me and the anime fandom, as someone in their 30s. Like some of the fan attitudes, from the over-obsessive worship of Japan, the creepy "conservative/traditional" weirdos who haven't even BEEN to Japan, the overposting of the exact same anime everywhere on every social media and out in public, acting like everything out of Japan is a 5 star masterpiece and superior to all Western media, etc. I just don't jive with the anime fandom much or heck, the anime medium, as much as I did back in the 00s. I dunno. I too have distanced myself to an extent. I can't say I've outgrown it, I still enjoy certain anime greatly, but maybe it was more of a "youth thing" for me that simply meant more to me at that stage of life. or something.
For furries, I've long enjoyed a lot of the art and some other fan creations, but the community, I've just never gotten into them. II would rather say I'm an "Anthro" rather than furry though, I'm the first to defend the furry community when it comes up in conversations haha. I do wonder if the trends of both anime and the furry fandom will come and go, and circle back around, or be co-opted by newer people in the future. I saw a video where someone talked about this in regards to book fans-Harry Potter is hot so we all want fantasy now, oh, now it's Twilight so supernatural romance, now it's Hunger Games so dystopia, Fault in Our Stars so super weepy/emotional/slice of life romances are the thing, etc. All of these book trends brought out annoying and irritable and weird and (sadly) creepy people and everywhere in between. So maybe "this too, shall pass."
EDIT: Also interesting to see how fan background changes for fandoms over time. The anime fan scene of the early-mid 90s was dominated by Caucasian college aged people (mostly men) who would share bootlegged fansub videotapes in their college clubs/dorms and purchase merch from obscure catalogs. While this demographic still is there obviously, you see a community that skews much younger than before. A younger group has brought about both positive and negative changes for the anime fandom IMO.
From what I've observed, in the early years of furry fandom in the 80s and 90s, it was more dominated by white, nerdy, straight computer savvy men in their late 20s and early 30s.
Today it's more LGBTQ+ (but more towards gay/bi men) in their early 20s. A lot are still into PCs and in IT. There is a running joke that furries run the Internet. I'm kind of the odd man out because I'm neither into computers or video games. I'm more into cartoons, foreign languages, and retro pop culture.
This may be somewhat irrational, but the "hardcore" Yo-kai Watch fandom. The Yo-kai Watch fandom has a weird problem where they seem to refuse to accept how things are localized, but not how everything is localized. They're under the impression that localized names for characters and concepts went downhill over time, and tend to refer to earlier characters by their English names and later characters by their Japanese names (I.E. Nate (referred to as "Keita" in JP) vs. Summer (referred to as "Natsume" in JP). This isn't the WORST though, this is probably just people being so used to using the names in JP because Yo-kai Watch as a franchise hasn't had any effort into translated releases besides the manga (which officially ended) recently.
The annoying part is how this mentality affected the Yo-kai Watch 4 fan-translation. In earlier versions, characters from the series' identity crisis phase were referred to by their English names from special chapters of the manga and official subs, but in a later version, they were reverted to the Japanese names.
I noticed this while watching a let's-play and had decided to question it on the subreddit. But a moderator from the subreddit (who was ALSO a translator for the YW4 fan-translation AND a YouTuber/influencer in the community) made fun of me for "not understanding what a good translation is." Is it really that good a translation if you keep most of the English names but revert a couple main characters just because you don't like them?
Same person who made fun of me also ran a Discord server and I could swear they've use the R-slur sometimes. If that "101leafy" jerk is reading this, know that your translation's reverted names don't fit with the already used English names. There should be consistency with the language your names fit in. Also, don't be a jerk to me for this. I wasn't trying to be a jerk before. NOW I'm a jerk because YOU were a jerk.
