The Lost Media and Research Handbook

Springy
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The Lost Media and Research Handbook Dec 16, 2023 3:44:44 GMT MantleM, extremewreck2000, and 1 more like this

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Post by Springy on Dec 16, 2023 3:44:44 GMT

Dec 15, 2023 21:57:01 GMT Springy said:

I was gonna create a thread for it, but then I remembered this existed so I might as well post it here because it's useful for lost media research as a whole.

This is my current list of useful web search engines besides google. Most people search only on google, even when using syntax sometimes certain sites won't appear on google! These sites have been a big help in all my searches, both lost media and other topics.

Duckduckgo - this is the most vanilla google alt. out there, they even have commercials on TV these days. However, the quality of this engine is excellent, it even has syntaxes like google does. Been my go-to search engine for years. Has a lite version for older computers. If the lite version doesn't work out or you want it even more stripped down there's Frogfind, which is basically duckduckgo without the cruft. Just be aware that Frogfind only does the first page of search results, for some people that's all they need, but for bigger searches it might not be useful.

Qwant - similar privacy focus to duckduckgo, but less features. Not too bad though.

Margnalia - this is a search engine dedicated to searching non-commercial and smaller websites. This is incredible for finding information on a topic for multiple reasons.

Wiby - similar focus on smaller sites and blogs like Margnalia, but I have found it less accurate overall. Still useful to have around though.

Dogpile and Metacrawler - super old school search engines. Since they've been around for years, they have some interesting results. Nothing too special though.

Mojeek - mojeek is one of the few search engines left that doesn't use results from other search engines, which makes it very unique. I have found it very useful multiple times.

Yacy, Disroot, Spot, and Sear-x - self hosted searches that pretty much search every site under the sun. Yacy is probably more suited for academia than lost media searches, but could still be useful. These sites are the last ones I use for every search deep dive I do.

Forgot about this, but there's also old google. Which is well, old versions of google. Kinda funny and sad that this exists tbh.

Check out my list of non-Google search engines: justpaste.it/c0yll

Springy
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The Lost Media and Research Handbook Dec 30, 2023 5:09:14 GMT MantleM, extremewreck2000, and 1 more like this

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Post by Springy on Dec 30, 2023 5:09:14 GMT

Another thing, more-so to do with this forum but good rule of thumb.

When making new posts to get people interested in your topic, use at least somewhat proper grammar. I see some people make posts here and they never get any traction because of the improper grammar! There are so many run on sentences, lack of punctuation, and lowercase letters. I am not expecting the greatest grammar ever and I understand there's probably non-English speaking people or younger lost media fans trying their best, but please at least have some basic formatting for people to be able to read and understand it!

I decided that the guidelines given in this book could be a good copypasta for people to make their own threads with, so even if they are non-English speaking, younger, or just unaware on how to get started they can at least be able to have decent formatting:

Title and Subject
Place the title, a brief description, and release period of your lost media here.

Story of Production
If you have any behind the scenes production details on the subject, place them here. It could be anything from interviews to storyboards.

Story of Release
How did the release of this media go? What was the reception towards the project? If project wasn't released, why not? Place all that info here.

Historical Importance
What was the historical importance of this media? What effect did it have on the world? Did it inspire any future creations? What effect on society did it have? Place all that here.

Why it's Lost
Why is the media lost today? Was it a limited run? Did a natural disaster happen to it? Was it only screened in a few countries? If the answer in "Story of Release" is "it was not released" is that why it is currently lost? Put whatever reasons you have found for its current status here.

Also here's a grammar checker, there's a bunch online, but I am just going to give a link to one just to avoid choice paralysis.

EDIT: Decided to give an example, using my personal holy grail of lost media. This is just an example with very bare-bones details. A person making a thread/search should use as much info they could initially find on the subject.

Title and Subject
American Dog was a Disney animated project helmed by Lilo & Stitch creator Chris Sanders. The movie would have been one of Disney's first CGI features and was going to be about a dog named Henry who, after a stunt goes wrong on a film set, manages to find himself on a train going to Nevada. There he meets a crew of animal friends and must find his way back home, whilst learning about the real world along the way.

Story of Production
American Dog was announced on August 16th 2004, almost a year later on August 10th 2005, Disney would showcase the movie at SIGRAPH. Behind the scenes work would begin on the movie, creating concept art and CGI models, casting a-list celebrity actors, and creating plot details.

Story of Release
American Dog never released as initially planned by Chris Sanders, due to him being exited out of the project due to internal story differences. The movie would then be reworked from practically scratch into the final release of Bolt.

Historical Importance
American Dog would lead the way into Sanders' departure from Disney, where he would go onto Dreamworks and work on How to Train Your Dragon and the Croods. Without American Dog, a case could be made for these movies being non-existent without his new involvement within Dreamworks. Bolt, the project American Dog turned into, was also a game changer, as its positive reception lead forward the future of Disney.

Why it's Lost
The reason why American Dog is currently lost is a two-fer of Disney not releasing the majority of materials that were made for the movie as well as Chris Sanders departure from both the project and Disney being majorly controversial for the company.

EDIT 2: Replaced the link with one that (most likely) doesn't require email

Last Edit: Dec 30, 2023 8:46:15 GMT by Springy

Check out my list of non-Google search engines: justpaste.it/c0yll

lostmedia1975
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The Lost Media and Research Handbook Dec 30, 2023 5:24:12 GMT Springy and psychedelicfursfan like this

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Post by lostmedia1975 on Dec 30, 2023 5:24:12 GMT

Dec 30, 2023 5:09:14 GMT Springy said:

Another thing, more-so to do with this forum but good rule of thumb.

When making new posts to get people interested in your topic, use at least somewhat proper grammar. I see some people make posts here and they never get any traction because of the improper grammar! There are so many run on sentences, lack of punctuation, and lowercase letters. I am not expecting the greatest grammar ever and I understand there's probably non-English speaking people or younger lost media fans trying their best, but please at least have some basic formatting for people to be able to read and understand it!

I decided that the guidelines given in this book could be a good copypasta for people to make their own threads with, so even if they are non-English speaking, younger, or just unaware on how to get started they can at least be able to have decent formatting:

Title and Subject
Place the title, a brief description, and release period of your lost media here.

Story of Production
If you have any behind the scenes production details on the subject, place them here. It could be anything from interviews to storyboards.

Story of Release
How did the release of this media go? What was the reception towards the project? If project wasn't released, why not? Place all that info here.

Historical Importance
What was the historical importance of this media? What effect did it have on the world? Did it inspire any future creations? What effect on society did it have? Place all that here.

Why it's Lost
Why is the media lost today? Was it a limited run? Did a natural disaster happen to it? Was it only screened in a few countries? If the answer in "Story of Release" is "it was not released" is that why it is currently lost? Put whatever reasons you have found for its current status here.

Also here's a grammar checker, there's a bunch online, but I am just going to give a link to one just to avoid choice paralysis.

I really wish I heard the term “Choice paralysis” sooner.

tellmewhy Lost Media Beginner Posts: 6	The Lost Media and Research Handbook Jan 29, 2024 15:32:37 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by tellmewhy on Jan 29, 2024 15:32:37 GMT please can you find the missing episodes of a lost analog show named jumbo wonderland

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The Lost Media and Research Handbook Jan 29, 2024 16:50:41 GMT via mobile MantleM, ziggycashmere, and 2 more like this

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Post by co on Jan 29, 2024 16:50:41 GMT

Jan 29, 2024 15:32:37 GMT tellmewhy said:

please can you find the missing episodes of a lost analog show named jumbo wonderland

Hello tellmewhy, requesting others to do searches for you isn't the best of manners, if you want you can create or contribute to an already existing thread and people that are interested will join your search.

2DKi
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The Lost Media and Research Handbook Feb 9, 2024 18:24:11 GMT

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Post by 2DKi on Feb 9, 2024 18:24:11 GMT

Jan 29, 2024 15:32:37 GMT tellmewhy said:

please can you find the missing episodes of a lost analog show named jumbo wonderland

Didn't you receive help and advice in the thread you made about this show? Please refer to that if you're that passionate about finding this.

extremewreck2000
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The Lost Media and Research Handbook Mar 26, 2024 9:33:50 GMT

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Post by extremewreck2000 on Mar 26, 2024 9:33:50 GMT

Dec 16, 2023 3:44:44 GMT Springy said: