Post by LSuperSonicQ on Sept 22, 2022 20:53:50 GMT
I know there's that meme about going to Brazil but considering we're debating the legitimacy of OP and the entire topic I didn't think it was time for a joke.
This reminds me a lot of Go For A Punch whose existence has been up for debate ever since the topic surfaced. There's absolutely no proof that it exists or doesn't exist- but through contextual evidence we can conclude that it likely didn't. That's the combination of people having searched through old VHS stores in Japan, details of the topic not matching up with Japanese culture, fans with years of experience in the genre having never heard of it, and every site that was found where it was alleged having been proven to be fake.
Yes, and Sanobashi Truthers remain unconvinced, just because they've wasted three years looking for it. Speculative lost media is one thing, but we need to start culling random legends and their subsequent searches. People have lost years of effort due to stubbornness one way or another (with Saki, it was due to foreigners' mystification of Japan, and here it's refusing to own up to a mistake as a small child).
If we don't stop investigating EVERYthing a stranger says is real, we're going to lose people in the community - they'll either get burnt out too soon and/or stop participating any new searches in case they too turn out to be fake. Just because I had a dream in 2019 where there was a Chikkun Takkun English dub doesn't mean it really happened and that I should cajole dozens of people into investigating it for me. We already have so many lost pieces of media; we don't need to burn more effort on things that can be proven as fake/mistakes within 10 minutes of web searching.
Ongoing Searches: ❂ Shin Tetsuwan Atom (Astro Boy 1980) Canadian dub 34/51 eps. ❂ The Parliament-Funkadelic 1978-1980 concert cartoons ❂ Petit Ange/Angie Girl "Sherlock & Me" English dub
Post by Princess Viola on Sept 23, 2022 1:25:05 GMT
At the same time (and this is speaking from the POV of someone who, as I've said before in this thread, thinks this alleged dub is just non-existent) I feel like saying stuff like 'this gives the lost media community a bad name' or 'we're going to lose people in the community' is kind of ridiculous because I guarantee you that tons of people both inside and outside the community (hell I'd probably say 'the majority' in the case of people outside the community) don't care about this specific topic at all (and you can probably extend that to lots of searches for stuff that very likely doesn't exist whatsoever tbh).
I know there's that meme about going to Brazil but considering we're debating the legitimacy of OP and the entire topic I didn't think it was time for a joke.
Post by MediaMonster on Sept 23, 2022 16:24:26 GMT
Okay, let me humor this thread for a little bit.
OP states that this version of Caillou aired back in 2010 "give or take a few years", so let's assume the broadcast time period is around 2007-2013 to give us some cushion room.
Immediately, we run into a problem. Caillou stopped producing new episodes in 2010 (specifically, the last episode aired on October 3rd, 2010). If this dub aired around late 2010-roughly 2013 (if we're being generous) why would they go through the effort to produce a new dub for a series that's already ended? Not to mention, everyone already KNEW Caillou as, well... Caillou. He's a well established character at this point. I think the name change would just confuse children. Let's scratch that from being a possibility for now. The dub must've aired back when new episodes were being produced, meaning 2007-early 2010.
Again, we run into another issue, as mentioned previously. Caillou is a long established character in pop culture at this point. The first episode of the series aired in on September 15th, 1997. Why on Earth would they go through the effort to produce a new dub at this point? The equivalent in my mind is Nickelodeon making a new English dub for Spongebob Squarepants that only aired in the middle of Ohio sometime in 2008. (hoaxers, don't steal that one)
And AGAIN we run into an issue, because the internet is long established at this point in time. Someone else would've mentioned watching this!! According to OP, this was airing at around the same time as shows like Flapjack, Chowder, etc. How does no one else have a memory of this?
Now, before anyone brings up examples such as the Peppa Pig US Dub, you must remember that Peppa Pig began broadcasting on British TV in May of 2004, and the US dub aired on Cartoon Network sometime in 2005. There's a very small gap in time between development of the original show and the US dub. There's no reason that Caillou, a show that was now 10+ years old at this point, would have a separate dub.
My personal theory? OP is either lying, or watched some sort of YouTube parody skit as a child and thought it was a real episode.
What are you talking about? It was obviously a fake version made by the station's janitor that he only aired at 3 AM.
It's true, his name is Zacharias Swayzak and he's been hunting me across the country with his demon child Charlie because I know the truth about the evil Charlie dub of Caillou. It's the same Charlie you summon in that challenge that was big 5 odd years ago.
"oooh, you're a- a freaked out child in the woods..."
OP states that this version of Caillou aired back in 2010 "give or take a few years", so let's assume the broadcast time period is around 2007-2013 to give us some cushion room.
Immediately, we run into a problem. Caillou stopped producing new episodes in 2010 (specifically, the last episode aired on October 3rd, 2010). If this dub aired around late 2010-roughly 2013 (if we're being generous) why would they go through the effort to produce a new dub for a series that's already ended? Not to mention, everyone already KNEW Caillou as, well... Caillou. He's a well established character at this point. I think the name change would just confuse children. Let's scratch that from being a possibility for now. The dub must've aired back when new episodes were being produced, meaning 2007-early 2010.
Again, we run into another issue, as mentioned previously. Caillou is a long established character in pop culture at this point. The first episode of the series aired in on September 15th, 1997. Why on Earth would they go through the effort to produce a new dub at this point? The equivalent in my mind is Nickelodeon making a new English dub for Spongebob Squarepants that only aired in the middle of Ohio sometime in 2008. (hoaxers, don't steal that one)
And AGAIN we run into an issue, because the internet is long established at this point in time. Someone else would've mentioned watching this!! According to OP, this was airing at around the same time as shows like Flapjack, Chowder, etc. How does no one else have a memory of this?
Now, before anyone brings up examples such as the Peppa Pig US Dub, you must remember that Peppa Pig began broadcasting on British TV in May of 2004, and the US dub aired on Cartoon Network sometime in 2005. There's a very small gap in time between development of the original show and the US dub. There's no reason that Caillou, a show that was now 10+ years old at this point, would have a separate dub.
My personal theory? OP is either lying, or watched some sort of YouTube parody skit as a child and thought it was a real episode.
Well said. Honestly this thread deserves to be shut down, nobody has gotten anywhere beyond the OP’s lies/misremembering.
The fact that people are actually searching for something that doesn't even exist (oh I'm sorry, "hypothetical lost media") when we could spend time searching for shit that's actually REAL pisses me off. This gives the community a bad name.
It seems to me that one would only be concerned with the reputation of the "lost media community" if one self-identifies with the lost media community, in some way.
I harbor some serious doubts myself as to the authenticity of this show, but honestly, the aspect of this that gives me the wrong impression of the "community" isn't the fact that there are people who believe this. It's how little effort the believers have put into finding the show.
OP states that this version of Caillou aired back in 2010 "give or take a few years", so let's assume the broadcast time period is around 2007-2013 to give us some cushion room.
Immediately, we run into a problem. Caillou stopped producing new episodes in 2010 (specifically, the last episode aired on October 3rd, 2010). If this dub aired around late 2010-roughly 2013 (if we're being generous) why would they go through the effort to produce a new dub for a series that's already ended? Not to mention, everyone already KNEW Caillou as, well... Caillou. He's a well established character at this point. I think the name change would just confuse children. Let's scratch that from being a possibility for now. The dub must've aired back when new episodes were being produced, meaning 2007-early 2010.
Again, we run into another issue, as mentioned previously. Caillou is a long established character in pop culture at this point. The first episode of the series aired in on September 15th, 1997. Why on Earth would they go through the effort to produce a new dub at this point? The equivalent in my mind is Nickelodeon making a new English dub for Spongebob Squarepants that only aired in the middle of Ohio sometime in 2008. (hoaxers, don't steal that one)
And AGAIN we run into an issue, because the internet is long established at this point in time. Someone else would've mentioned watching this!! According to OP, this was airing at around the same time as shows like Flapjack, Chowder, etc. How does no one else have a memory of this?
Now, before anyone brings up examples such as the Peppa Pig US Dub, you must remember that Peppa Pig began broadcasting on British TV in May of 2004, and the US dub aired on Cartoon Network sometime in 2005. There's a very small gap in time between development of the original show and the US dub. There's no reason that Caillou, a show that was now 10+ years old at this point, would have a separate dub.
My personal theory? OP is either lying, or watched some sort of YouTube parody skit as a child and thought it was a real episode.
Just watched your new video LSSQ. Wish you could've included this comment to highlight the inconsistencies of OP's claim. But, I digress.