Christine Chubbuck Tape

Just compare the voice to this small amount of footage in the public domain: vimeo.com/190367794?fbclid=IwAR3Xr_xHcWSb3Damna6UNxgTsbJwQ5Z_wB3a00tKjL3Fh3aZYfSg0K6o37g

If this is fake, it's the best fake I've ever heard.

There is of course the possibility of it being a deepfake, but, though I am not sure how things like that work, I feel like that would be hard to do. The moment I heard this audio (this was when the abridged video was uploaded a few months ago)  I instantly could tell it was her. I don't know what about it; I just knew it.

It isn't like the transcript is a secret, I could easily see this being a film student being bored. This audio isn't exactly hard to fake if you have the right equipment.

What bothers me is why they would come HERE to this small, esoteric corner of the internet when there are much bigger fish out there. Take it to a movie studio or some shit. Take it to a bigger facebook group. LMW is small, we have (at best) a few hundred active users. Coming here with a holy grail is going to lead to questions of authenticity, and OP just isn't being open about anything. This isn't the first high effort troll of this material either, recall squid made a pretty convincing fake. It's a lot of day 1 accounts raiding...

It's a high effort troll. A $300 fake rolex. It's a nice rolex, but it is still fake.

As someone who has been in somewhat regular contact with Ataliste, I am 99.9% sure this is real. I just can't see someone being able to make a fake this convincing - compare it to Christine's voice in Kate Plays Christine - it's identical. You can't just fake that with software. And the information is all accurate, just compare what she is saying to the Sarasota Herald-Tribune from that day... This is either real, or someone has done impeccable research AND happened to have found a Christine Chubbuck sound-alike.

He has his reasons for releasing it and then privating it, which I won't be divulging here because I don't particularly want to see this situation take any drastic turns, for the betterment of everyone involved.

Anyway, that's my take on it all for now.

I can understand why one can be so wary of this material, and while I still think this is real, the part of the OP being so secretive of it raises some doubts. May I ask why being more open about it would go "against his best interests"?

You don't need to worry about stirring the pot, it's cool. You are a legend on this forum and I respect the hell out of you and your opinions. You won't see me getting mad because you have a different opinion. You are awesome man!

With that out of the way, I feel like I can fire back a bit. My hypothesis remains that (unless you know something I don't) it appears to be a high effort troll, likely someone in film school.

The fact that it varies off of the transcript isn't evidence that it is real, it is further evidence that it isn't. I'll concede that transcripts are not perfect or at least are unlikely to be 100% accurate, but that is not proof of authenticity.

As for audio, I understand that this is going to take more than apple garageband and a low quality text to speech software, but her voice isn't exactly unique. This isn't an insult to her, but her voice is pretty similar to about half the women in the upper midwest and carolinas. It wouldn't be too hard for a film student to have a friend with that voice or be the person with that voice. nor would it be impossible to fake audio distortion with the correct software. Like the kind of software that any university with a film/audio program would have. My old community college had professional grade stuff for the film/audio department, it's not hard to come by.

I'm glad to see that we are growing as a community, I'm very happy to see those stats! But we aren't exactly Facebook. We are a small corner of the internet and it is just weird that someone would drop a holy grail with no reasoning behind it and expect us to take it on face value. There are much larger forums than ours, especially after the two movies. Why not post it to the christine movie facebook page? Why not post it to a larger lost media forum? If you can't post it publicly why take the risk or going to this small/midsized website at all? It just seems to me like if they can't post it because of legal issues, they wouldn't have. If they could have posted it without legal issues they would have gone bigger, Like news media bigger. Not our corner of the internet. We just fall into the midsized range of the internet. Think about it, let's say you find the lost 8 hour cut of greed, do you dump it here or do you take it to a film archiving society? I love this place but I bet the archiving society would digitize it for free.

As for his lack of public speaking, I'm sure you know something that I don't since you have been in communication with him but I can only go off of the information that I have seen. From what I have seen, it has been dodgy, troll-like answers with bursts of anger and paper thin reasonings about trust. Anon1974's behavior has been rather odd to say the least with some of his style being unpleasant and confrontational and other times he styles himself as polite and a leaker of a holy grail. At the end of the day he is a new user with no clout and a bunch of day 1 accounts come to confirm everything? That's suspicious to me. While I trust you and your judgement, it is difficult for me to trust a new account waltzing into the forum with a holy grail and no explanation.

I think that it's much more possible to fake audio and we should not doubt that some people have access to high quality software. A film student or audio student at a small university would have access to the software and talent needed to fake this if they put enough time into it. I could easily see this being someone's project for a film class or an audio class and then deciding "hey this is pretty good maybe I should have some fun with this!"

A lot of my questions really come down to why here? This is a great forum but we aren't even the largest lost media forum on the internet. Sure we are the largest database of lost media articles, but there are discord groups, facebook groups and other websites that have a bigger following. Why the secrecy and if it is so secret, why leak it at all? If you are opening pandora's box and you want it to get out, why HERE? It would take effort to transfer an audio recording to digital then upload it. If the audio is so secret why do it? Why pay to have it digitized? Why upload it if you aren't supposed to, if you aren't supposed to either go big or go home, don't leave it on a midsized website. Take it to cnn or something. There is just no plausible reason to take it here, where we have been fooled in the past and are obsessed with this bit of lost media.

Anyway, I respect your opinions and your experience, but I just don't believe we are going to see eye to eye on this. I don't think you need to be randy newman's audio technician to do this. This is more advanced than most but it wouldn't be impossible for a university student to fake.