Post by dogpolygonrt66 on Aug 25, 2017 2:55:38 GMT
This would be a much bigger win for lost media searching than cry baby lane. This would actually break news, and hopefully garner a bigger search effort for other things. Here's to finding it.
Well it helps that it happens to be a DVD containing various lost content. I've messaged Oym-Museum again recently to no response as of yet, so at some point maybe I or we could heavily reblog his posts with the subject of the DVD in hopes that they'll notice and finally speak out about it
I've got a significant update, but not for the better... Coincidentally after talking about it on the LMW discord, the next morning I finally find a reply from Oym-Museum. I sent him two replies and...
Welp, that was our one lead that wasn't knowingly a Pixarian thus free of "internal Pixar use" and gift = not rip status.
I've got a significant update, but not for the better... Coincidentally after talking about it on the LMW discord, the next morning I finally find a reply from Oym-Museum. I sent him two replies and...
Welp, that was our one lead that wasn't knowingly a Pixarian thus free of "internal Pixar use" and gift = not rip status.
"It's my treasure" So, they plan on having a very important to film and animation history dvd erode away into nothing rather than let everyone see it. What's the logic behind these guys?
Well shit. So does this mean getting the DVD from either a trust-shattering Pixarian or someone who isn't one, has it and is willing to share it? On the plus side, getting in touch with Flip Phillips not only proves that Pixar DID do those Toppan Printing ads, but also reveals he has copies as well as a demo reel of Pixar ads in chronological order. Hey, those TP ads weren't mentioned on the DVD!
UPDATE: Looks like the Pixartalk guy doesn't have the DVD, so maybe he got his list from Pixarian assistance or something. So, what do we do now?
I've known about this topic for a while and heard bits and pieces about it, but I just read through the article and this thread and became interested.
This sounds like a really obtainable piece of lost media, it's just that we're on the hunt for a physical DVD rather than a digital piece of work on someone's computer....and I think that makes it easier.
The thing is, Pixar is such a large company that many, many of those DVDs had to have been made. And even more so, someone who owns it has to be willing to leak it, or even sell it if they don't care much for Pixar- whether that be a past employee or if a 3rd party got it (which I really feel like could have happened).
Since I like finding lost plushes and stuff, I feel like this is a hunt I could end up getting some new kind of results for.
So for clarification, the people listed in this thread are the only ones that have been contacted thus far? And most of them are employees?
Additionally, were the people listed who "didn't discuss it further" asked about it beyond just if they own it, or were they just asked if they had it?
Hi LSSQ! So yeah there's the physical DVD, but a straight up rip of the DVD's contents would be equally as appreciated, if perhaps hard to do. And this is technically early 2000s Pixar we're talking about in terms of size.
Yes, the people listed are the only ones I've contacted thus far, with the only non-Pixar employee (that we know of) being the Oym Museum guy. So at least one copy has made it out of the Pixarian grasp, so to speak. Navone and Pidgeon didn't respond further after claiming they had a copy and me asking about them sharing its footage.
So yeah, there's at least five copies around and they'd presumably go through the DVD making trouble for more than that There's still several potential contacts who were working at Pixar at the early 2000s, post-For the Birds time. I personally hope that as someone can leak that Bionicle Legend of Mata Nui game under anonymity, that some Pixar employee (still with the company or not) can be kind enough to rip the DVD and share it online anonymously. As we know with Oym-museum, the DVD and its contents have technically already made its way out of the Pixarian group, so why not go all the way? Might as well share this interesting content that in the case of the commercials at least, is actually important to Pixar's history.
I was hoping to return to this thread with some good news, but unfortunately I've come up completely empty handed.
Since I last posted I've contacted probably 7 or so employees from around the correct era, with varying responses.
Someone knew what I was talking about but didn't have one. Another person HAD one, but said it was deep in storage and they weren't going to get it anytime soon. Then there were a couple who didn't know, and the rest never replied at all (though a majority of the non-responders were just public tweets, since I couldn't find any other contact for those people specifically).
I could get you the names for those people if anything sounded promising, and I haven't looked for more people in a while so maybe another shot would yield new results.
This got pretty complicated pretty fast.
Edit: Also want to point out that I made sure the people I contacted were not contacted before. In addition, I had a new strategy to make sure that everyone who I contacted was no longer currently working at Pixar, because I'm under the impression if they're not currently connected to the company then they'll be more willing to share the DVD. Based on the earlier parts of this thread it sounded like the current employees were against sharing it, which makes sense since everything is still so fresh to them vs. a long gone employee.
Last Edit: Mar 4, 2018 19:36:42 GMT by LSuperSonicQ
I'd like the names of who you contacted. Which one was the one who had it in storage? If hypothetically they did get to it at some point would they be up for sharing the DVD?
To help with this search, it might be in the interest of the community if you start a pool, and collect some money. The reason why OYM-museum does not want o "share" is because it cost him some money along with some offline search work. There was mention of an ex-employee that has a copy but it is in storage, some money might be a motivation through scurrage throught those items.
What you also need to keep in mind is this site in this instance is competing against collectors of specific items. Disney collectors will be interested, pixar collectors will be interested, and film collectors are interested. All three of those will offer money for that item. When it comes to asking for something for free, I have seen many efforts that has looked promising getting sunk because the community is bombarding the owner with emails "begging" for the item. Similar actions have prohibited collectors from adding (and in some instances releasing) items (such as the Jurassic Park animated demo reel, Kingdom Hearts animatic, Oh No Not Them pilot, etc.) to their collections.
If you are serious about preserving this for the masses, set up a paypal, and when it comes to bargaining, never start at a hundred dollars, in most instances that will be a proverbial strike to the face, 500 dollars is usually enought to show seriousness, and even if the seller paid more, it shows enough seriousness to at least start negotiations.
The thing intriguing about this is the fact that it’s an actual physical media, a DVD. Meaning that, unlike a lot of lost media, we have an even greater chance of one day recovering if. The only thing is the exclusivity of it. Have we contacted all former Pixar employees who would’ve worked there when this was presumably released?
Well not ALL all. We could still search for and contact Pixar people of that era. Just, let's be careful not to come off as... Bugging or irritant?
About the pool thing, we could do that, but maybe it's just me not being the most knowledgeable about these kind of internet money things: what if we get scammed? What if Oym or someone just decides to pocket the money and never send forward the DVD/rip it/whatever? Granted with a Pixar employee that may be less likely, but this Oym guy didn't even respond to more recent inquiries on my part.
Well not ALL all. We could still search for and contact Pixar people of that era. Just, let's be careful not to come off as... Bugging or irritant?
I’ll do some digging this coming weekend (busy at the moment) and see what I can find on who else might have been working there at that time. Early 2000s, right?
I understand the hesitancy regarding the pool, but before you start negotiations, you first ascertain whether the person has got the item, if so, you then offer. Once again this is not foolproof, many collectors has been burned many times in the past, it's a leap of faith, there are no guarantees, but it increases the chances of success, trust me.
Well not ALL all. We could still search for and contact Pixar people of that era. Just, let's be careful not to come off as... Bugging or irritant?
I’ll do some digging this coming weekend (busy at the moment) and see what I can find on who else might have been working there at that time. Early 2000s, right?
Yes, some time after For the Birds was complete judging by its inclusion.