What is your “I didn’t care for The Godfather.”

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What is your “I didn’t care for The Godfather.” Dec 6, 2023 21:56:30 GMT

Post by lostmedia1975 on Dec 6, 2023 21:56:30 GMT

Dec 6, 2023 19:21:22 GMT darkrage6 said:

Dec 6, 2023 6:13:14 GMT missacorn said:

I'm just gonna say it.

I'm tired of a fair chunk of video game movies being live action.

I get it, animation is very expensive and difficult, and adapting a video game into outside media is also difficult. But 50% of the time they barely get it right.

Why can't we get more animated video game films, like the recent Mario movie? I just personally feel that some things just don't translate well into animation.

I thought the Sonic movies were okay, but I think it would've been neat to see what an animated adaptation would've been. We would've avoided the ugly sonic debacle.

Anyways speaking of the live action sonic movies, they're okay. Again it probably would've been better animated, but that's me.

Edit: I realized this is more of a "controversial opinion"/hot take than I "I didn't care for godfather" kinda thing. My bad. I was super tired when I wrote this.

Eh i'm fine with it and the reason for it is largely because of how big of a flop Final Fantasy Spirits Within was back in 2001.

I honestly didn't care much for the Mario animated movie(it basically felt like a 90 minute commercial for the games) and actually prefer the live-action 1993 film over it.

An animated Sonic adaptation would've been cool but I think live-action works pretty well for those movies(which are way better then Mario IMO).

Yeah, I still remember when I first watched the sonic movie, and I was completely surprised by how good it was (mind you, this was my introduction to the overall franchise). There’s also something about the movie that feels so….. cinematic. I don’t know what it is.

I wasn’t a huge fan of the Mario movie. The animation and voice acting was good, but that can only take a movie so far. Now, i’m not trying to say “oh the films story sucked”, because the problem really was the pacing. It felt really cut down. Scenes that should have been 3-5 minutes wound up only being like 20-50 seconds.

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What is your “I didn’t care for The Godfather.” Dec 6, 2023 22:16:54 GMT doraemon2000 likes this

Post by darkrage6 on Dec 6, 2023 22:16:54 GMT

Dec 6, 2023 20:14:56 GMT buttonrevenge said:

Dec 6, 2023 19:21:22 GMT darkrage6 said:

I honestly didn't care much for the Mario animated movie(it basically felt like a 90 minute commercial for the games) and actually prefer the live-action 1993 film over it.

I agree with you on that. The movie felt extremely average to me. Everything from the good-but-not-amazing animation, to the stock licensed music choices, to the cliched plot made the movie feel extremely safe, like it was too afraid to do anything too out of the ordinary.

I also will say that my opinion on the movie is a bit tainted by the discourse that happened back in March/April over the Critic's score on Rotten Tomatoes. Every argument from people attacking the score ("You're looking too deep into it, It's not meant to win Oscars" "You're just supposed to have fun", "Critics don't even matter anyways", "It was made for Mario fans, so you're the wrong audience") seemed to come back to one point, and while I didn't see anybody state it outright, it was definitely the atmosphere I got from the discourse: "The movie is actually good, and if you don't like it, you are wrong."

The entire discourse just felt cold and bitter. This is kind of mean, but after a week of it, the discourse just felt like whining from Mario fans who were painting themselves as heroic underdogs for not respecting other people's opinions. I was very much over it, and it was the final straw that made me delete Twitter (Which was actually a very good thing, now that I say it).

(Also, if you were a part of the discourse on the side of Mario, I just want to say that I am not trying to attack you, I'm just sharing my opinion on it now that it's long past).

I stayed out of that fight completely.

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What is your “I didn’t care for The Godfather.” Dec 6, 2023 22:17:53 GMT doraemon2000 and Azuki<3 like this

Post by extremewreck2000 on Dec 6, 2023 22:17:53 GMT

Dec 6, 2023 9:30:45 GMT paros said:

Dec 6, 2023 6:13:14 GMT missacorn said:

I'm just gonna say it.

I'm tired of a fair chunk of video game movies being live action.

I get it, animation is very expensive and difficult, and adapting a video game into outside media is also difficult. But 50% of the time they barely get it right.

Why can't we get more animated video game films, like the recent Mario movie? I just personally feel that some things just don't translate well into animation.

I thought the Sonic movies were okay, but I think it would've been neat to see what an animated adaptation would've been. We would've avoided the ugly sonic debacle.

Because the people in charge of making those decisions think animation is an inherently worse medium, and that all artists should be striving for realism? That kind of mindset sort of stunts creativity and makes everything look really samey, imo.

EXACTLY. Animation usually doesn't get ANY respect in Hollywood at all, not in the Oscars & most definitely not in the general American public. Animation is IMO one of the best mediums EVER since it combines art & motion to create some truly great stuff. Not just hand drawn & computer animation, but also stop-motion animation. There are SOOO MANY animation techniques out there that make it WHOLLY unique compared to live-action, to the point that most special effects in live-action shows & movies these days are, in fact, ANIMATION(especially since practical effects have been almost completely phased out of Hollywood movies). And yet, despite the near endless possibilities animation has & the many showcases of that unlimited potential, the general American public unfortunately just doesn't care & Darkage's reply about him being fine with most video game movies being live-action straight up confirms that general public opinion. Like, if THAT'S how someone feels about it because of one movie bombing, then yeah, marketing decisions are sadly just not gonna see the wild amount of potential the medium has to accurately portray some video games better than some stupid live-action atrocity could(no offense to Sonic movie fans, I just have experience with disasters such as the live-action Yogi Bear & Smurfs movies, which were just terrible).

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What is your “I didn’t care for The Godfather.” Dec 7, 2023 0:40:57 GMT doraemon2000 and Azuki<3 like this

Post by lostmedia1975 on Dec 7, 2023 0:40:57 GMT

Dec 6, 2023 20:14:56 GMT buttonrevenge said:

Dec 6, 2023 19:21:22 GMT darkrage6 said:

I honestly didn't care much for the Mario animated movie(it basically felt like a 90 minute commercial for the games) and actually prefer the live-action 1993 film over it.

I agree with you on that. The movie felt extremely average to me. Everything from the good-but-not-amazing animation, to the stock licensed music choices, to the cliched plot made the movie feel extremely safe, like it was too afraid to do anything too out of the ordinary.

I also will say that my opinion on the movie is a bit tainted by the discourse that happened back in March/April over the Critic's score on Rotten Tomatoes. Every argument from people attacking the score ("You're looking too deep into it, It's not meant to win Oscars" "You're just supposed to have fun", "Critics don't even matter anyways", "It was made for Mario fans, so you're the wrong audience") seemed to come back to one point, and while I didn't see anybody state it outright, it was definitely the atmosphere I got from the discourse: "The movie is actually good, and if you don't like it, you are wrong."

The entire discourse just felt cold and bitter. This is kind of mean, but after a week of it, the discourse just felt like whining from Mario fans who were painting themselves as heroic underdogs for not respecting other people's opinions. I was very much over it, and it was the final straw that made me delete Twitter (Which was actually a very good thing, now that I say it).

(Also, if you were a part of the discourse on the side of Mario, I just want to say that I am not trying to attack you, I'm just sharing my opinion on it now that it's long past).

That reminds me of the helluva boss fandom. They both have something in common: they are of the opinion that it’s good, and if you don’t like it, you are wrong. I don’t speak for the entire fanbase, but I can ensure at least half of them are like that.

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What is your “I didn’t care for The Godfather.” Dec 7, 2023 1:31:08 GMT via mobile

Post by nostalgist32x on Dec 7, 2023 1:31:08 GMT

Now I was thinking about this and recently I had more of a "10 out of 10 for The Room" moment. So recently I saw this movie called "Romeo & Juliet: Sealed With a Kiss." I heard about it from Saberspark and he didn't review it but in the YouTube Short he implied it sucked. I Watched it and I give it a 7 or 6 out of 10. Not the best but decent. Well then I watch PaleoStenos review and he says it was the worst thing he had reviewed. Granted the review was 8 years old and he hadn't reviewed many bad things at that time, but still a bold statement to make. Most of his arguments I agreed with but I didn't feel as strongly about. He complained about how at the end of the movie there's this weird warp thing they used for the characters all of a sudden. He complains about this annoying fish character. Some things came off as very nitpickey though. He complains they don't get the anatomy of the Animals right which no one is going to care about at all. He talked about the sound affects which yeah we're cheap, but they weren't to aggresious. He talked about how there's no shading in the movie which I find straight up untrue. Then things I disagree with all together. He said the Romeo and Juliet were boring which I'm not saying they were the most sophisticated main characters, but I wouldn't say they're boring.

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What is your “I didn’t care for The Godfather.” Dec 7, 2023 2:01:48 GMT extremewreck2000 and Spin <3 like this

Post by Ripley J. Smith on Dec 7, 2023 2:01:48 GMT

1. The entirety of the MCU. Yes, this includes the first Iron Man and the first Avengers

2. Young Justice

3. Game of Thrones

4. Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade (IMHO, Temple of Doom was way better and while Crystal Skull sucked, it was still better than Last Crusade)

5. Excalibur

6. The Hunger Games

7. Harry Potter

8. Twilight

9. Nintendo in general (excluding Legend of Zelda and the Bayonetta sequels)

10. Steven Universe

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What is your “I didn’t care for The Godfather.” Dec 7, 2023 2:08:07 GMT extremewreck2000 likes this

Post by darkrage6 on Dec 7, 2023 2:08:07 GMT

Dec 7, 2023 2:01:48 GMT Ripley J. Smith said:

1. The entirety of the MCU. Yes, this includes the first Iron Man and the first Avengers

2. Young Justice

3. Game of Thrones

4. Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade (IMHO, Temple of Doom was way better and while Crystal Skull sucked, it was still better than Last Crusade)

5. Excalibur

6. The Hunger Games

7. Harry Potter

8. Twilight

9. Nintendo in general (excluding Legend of Zelda and the Bayonetta sequels)

10. Steven Universe

A lot of people actually hate Twilight so that one isn't all that unpopular.

I'm actually not a Zelda fan myself, the games just never grabbed me(the whole gimmick of Link never talking makes him a really bland character and the gameplay never really blew me away, don't even get me started on those terrible weapon breaking and stamina mechanics in the last two games, firmly in agreement with Jim Sterling in that regard).

I think Sonic is better then Mario.

I'm in agreement with you on GOT, never got what the big deal about that show was.

Also I fucking despise LOST with a passion, not too crazy about Supernatural either.

Also never found Monty Python stuff funny(and given Cleese and Terry Gilliam have both said some pretty bigoted and ignorant shit i'm legitimately happy I never got into it).

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What is your “I didn’t care for The Godfather.” Dec 7, 2023 5:37:40 GMT

Post by Azuki<3 on Dec 7, 2023 5:37:40 GMT

Dec 5, 2023 2:29:52 GMT duckiguess said:

Honestly as a kid and even now I’ve never been the BIGGEST fairly oddparents fan (yes the older seasons too) honestly I prefer the original oh yeah cartoons shorts.

I’m not saying I don’t enjoy it as it does have some moments that make me laugh (I do sometimes quote Mr.Cocker) but still I never really saw the draw factor then and now.

I think one of the issues is that shows end up "nerfed" in production from the original creator/creators' intentions. And/or they end up way different from what they were intended to be or do, which can be a good or bad thing. And I feel like family entertainment can be especially susceptible to this philosophy where any "rough edges" are "ironed out" so as not to scare or "disturb the kiddos" or "offend anyone." Or maybe the sense of humor, the character, tone, etc. is just mega different from pitch/pilot to actual show, or it's executed differently. Not saying that's actually the case with FOP, but it is a possibility.

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What is your “I didn’t care for The Godfather.” Dec 7, 2023 5:41:15 GMT

Post by Azuki<3 on Dec 7, 2023 5:41:15 GMT

Dec 7, 2023 1:31:08 GMT nostalgist32x said:

Now I was thinking about this and recently I had more of a "10 out of 10 for The Room" moment. So recently I saw this movie called "Romeo & Juliet: Sealed With a Kiss." I heard about it from Saberspark and he didn't review it but in the YouTube Short he implied it sucked. I Watched it and I give it a 7 or 6 out of 10. Not the best but decent. Well then I watch PaleoStenos review and he says it was the worst thing he had reviewed. Granted the review was 8 years old and he hadn't reviewed many bad things at that time, but still a bold statement to make. Most of his arguments I agreed with but I didn't feel as strongly about. He complained about how at the end of the movie there's this weird warp thing they used for the characters all of a sudden. He complains about this annoying fish character. Some things came off as very nitpickey though. He complains they don't get the anatomy of the Animals right which no one is going to care about at all. He talked about the sound affects which yeah we're cheap, but they weren't to aggresious. He talked about how there's no shading in the movie which I find straight up untrue. Then things I disagree with all together. He said the Romeo and Juliet were boring which I'm not saying they were the most sophisticated main characters, but I wouldn't say they're boring.

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I think I remember Bobsheaux (sp?) reviewing this back in the day too. He ended up not hating the movie, but also not exactly liking it either. He saw it as just okay. The fact that one guy basically made almost an entire movie on his own over the course of several years APART from the mouse house of doom is at least impressive enough to give it a watch IMO.

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What is your “I didn’t care for The Godfather.” Dec 7, 2023 5:49:09 GMT

Post by Azuki<3 on Dec 7, 2023 5:49:09 GMT

Dec 7, 2023 2:01:48 GMT Ripley J. Smith said:

1. The entirety of the MCU. Yes, this includes the first Iron Man and the first Avengers

2. Young Justice

3. Game of Thrones

4. Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade (IMHO, Temple of Doom was way better and while Crystal Skull sucked, it was still better than Last Crusade)

5. Excalibur

6. The Hunger Games

7. Harry Potter

8. Twilight

9. Nintendo in general (excluding Legend of Zelda and the Bayonetta sequels)

10. Steven Universe

The problem with the MCU for me is that the films really do be formulaic/samey when you get down to it IMO. Yes, I understand there were multiple directors and directing styles, but there's a reason why "MCU formula" has become something of a meme online. I like a lot of the movies and really like 1-3 or so, but I don't really love them. I do wonder if I was a mega big comic fan if I could enjoy them more, I just didn't grow up with comic access so sadly that could never be the case. But I would be curious if anyone who IS a mega comics fan could chime in with their thoughts on the MCU here.

Was Young Justice too slow for you? I sound like a big baby here but the pacing felt way too slow for me to get into. I just got bored, as much as I tried to respect the artistry and talent. The fact that I had never seen the OG Teen Titans show may have had something to do with it, but I dunno.

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What is your “I didn’t care for The Godfather.” Dec 7, 2023 7:50:33 GMT via mobile

Post by videoranger007 on Dec 7, 2023 7:50:33 GMT

Everything after the 1st season of American Horror Story is complete garbage, and even thats pushing it. First 5 episodes of the 1st season are good, rest of the season is tolerable. Every season after that is convoluted garbage.

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What is your “I didn’t care for The Godfather.” Dec 7, 2023 8:53:02 GMT

Post by darkrage6 on Dec 7, 2023 8:53:02 GMT

Dec 7, 2023 5:49:09 GMT Azuki<3 said:

Dec 7, 2023 2:01:48 GMT Ripley J. Smith said:

1. The entirety of the MCU. Yes, this includes the first Iron Man and the first Avengers

2. Young Justice

3. Game of Thrones

4. Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade (IMHO, Temple of Doom was way better and while Crystal Skull sucked, it was still better than Last Crusade)

5. Excalibur

6. The Hunger Games

7. Harry Potter

8. Twilight

9. Nintendo in general (excluding Legend of Zelda and the Bayonetta sequels)

10. Steven Universe

The problem with the MCU for me is that the films really do be formulaic/samey when you get down to it IMO. Yes, I understand there were multiple directors and directing styles, but there's a reason why "MCU formula" has become something of a meme online. I like a lot of the movies and really like 1-3 or so, but I don't really love them. I do wonder if I was a mega big comic fan if I could enjoy them more, I just didn't grow up with comic access so sadly that could never be the case. But I would be curious if anyone who IS a mega comics fan could chime in with their thoughts on the MCU here.

Was Young Justice too slow for you? I sound like a big baby here but the pacing felt way too slow for me to get into. I just got bored, as much as I tried to respect the artistry and talent. The fact that I had never seen the OG Teen Titans show may have had something to do with it, but I dunno.

I didn't mind Young Justice's pace but if you've never seen the OG Titans I can see that being a barrier.

You don't have to have grown up with comics to enjoy the MCU, I never read comics featuring any of the characters in those films and I still enjoyed them and while there is something of a formula I do feel the films overall differentiate themselves enough, that being said I will say i was not a fan of the first Captain American movie and I was pretty eh on the first two Thor movies.

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What is your “I didn’t care for The Godfather.” Dec 7, 2023 12:04:36 GMT via mobile extremewreck2000, Azuki<3, and 1 more like this

Post by duckiguess on Dec 7, 2023 12:04:36 GMT

Dec 7, 2023 5:37:40 GMT Azuki<3 said:

Dec 5, 2023 2:29:52 GMT duckiguess said:

Honestly as a kid and even now I’ve never been the BIGGEST fairly oddparents fan (yes the older seasons too) honestly I prefer the original oh yeah cartoons shorts.

I’m not saying I don’t enjoy it as it does have some moments that make me laugh (I do sometimes quote Mr.Cocker) but still I never really saw the draw factor then and now.

I think one of the issues is that shows end up "nerfed" in production from the original creator/creators' intentions. And/or they end up way different from what they were intended to be or do, which can be a good or bad thing. And I feel like family entertainment can be especially susceptible to this philosophy where any "rough edges" are "ironed out" so as not to scare or "disturb the kiddos" or "offend anyone." Or maybe the sense of humor, the character, tone, etc. is just mega different from pitch/pilot to actual show, or it's executed differently. Not saying that's actually the case with FOP, but it is a possibility.

The latter seems to be the case for me.

If you want to watch the original Oh Yeah Cartoons! (The Shorts had a pilot but they also served as a pilot for the main series making this a confusing series of events) shorts I’ll post them down here.

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What is your “I didn’t care for The Godfather.”

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