Forcibly disappeared media?

fmecha
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Forcibly disappeared media? Jan 30, 2023 11:45:01 GMT

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Post by fmecha on Jan 30, 2023 11:45:01 GMT

The recent case of Cookie's Bustle (discusssed here) in which all gameplay footage and downloads were taken down in a suspicious manner made me think about the concept of media that forcibly disappeared for any reason. What would other cases of that?

(Also, Cookie's Bustle thread, I guess)

Jr Full Member "No more half-measures" means "if he becomes a problem again, he's going to die". Posts: 229	Forcibly disappeared media? Jan 30, 2023 15:59:38 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Jr on Jan 30, 2023 15:59:38 GMT I think forcibly lost media can be applied to many things such as films that were intentionally destroyed
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Forcibly disappeared media? Jan 30, 2023 18:20:11 GMT

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Post by sakuraradiochan on Jan 30, 2023 18:20:11 GMT

Considering it's still on archive.org I don't think it's been "disappeared."

Following up from that, a lot of media in authoritarian countries was forcibly disappeared; I only know personally about that in the European socialist bloc and the USSR. (You) will never see Bezhin Meadow in its complete form, nor read the lost works of Isaac Babel.

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Forcibly disappeared media? Jan 31, 2023 1:37:27 GMT

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Post by fmecha on Jan 31, 2023 1:37:27 GMT

Jan 30, 2023 18:20:11 GMT sakuraradiochan said:

Considering it's still on archive.org I don't think it's been "disappeared."

Several uploads of Cookie's Bustle were taken down from archive.org a while back (including one in that Japanese PC hoard), although a Mac site still has a copy of it, indicating there's an attempt (in addition to gameplay videos being taken down). This is the report of the original removal.

extremewreck2000 Super God A smart fellow gone insane, taking the ride as I do some cool stuff about lost media. Go figure. Posts: 2,316	Forcibly disappeared media? Feb 5, 2023 1:52:40 GMT awesomereesee likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by extremewreck2000 on Feb 5, 2023 1:52:40 GMT Greedy hoarder is the one responsible IIRC. Not even the owners of the original game, just some greedy piece of crap who bought the game sometime ago & was willing to keep it to himself.

fmecha New Member Posts: 12	Forcibly disappeared media? Feb 8, 2023 7:54:41 GMT extremewreck2000 likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by fmecha on Feb 8, 2023 7:54:41 GMT Update: YouTube, Twitch, and Twitter are pulling any and all videos of Cookie's Bustle (including Vinny's stream) and KHInsider is removing the game's soundtrack from their site

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Forcibly disappeared media? Feb 9, 2023 19:49:38 GMT

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Post by GrigioGuy on Feb 9, 2023 19:49:38 GMT

Feb 8, 2023 7:54:41 GMT fmecha said:

Update: YouTube, Twitch, and Twitter are pulling any and all videos of Cookie's Bustle (including Vinny's stream) and KHInsider is removing the game's soundtrack from their site

What's the story behind this, anyway?

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Forcibly disappeared media? Feb 9, 2023 20:56:24 GMT via mobile

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Post by crumbelivable on Feb 9, 2023 20:56:24 GMT

Feb 9, 2023 19:49:38 GMT GrigioGuy said:

Feb 8, 2023 7:54:41 GMT fmecha said:

Update: YouTube, Twitch, and Twitter are pulling any and all videos of Cookie's Bustle (including Vinny's stream) and KHInsider is removing the game's soundtrack from their site

What's the story behind this, anyway?

Either the rights owner or some classic game hoarder is sending out copyright strikes en masse at every instance of this game online.

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Forcibly disappeared media? Feb 10, 2023 1:19:27 GMT extremewreck2000 likes this

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Post by lammyvox on Feb 10, 2023 1:19:27 GMT

Feb 9, 2023 19:49:38 GMT GrigioGuy said:

Feb 8, 2023 7:54:41 GMT fmecha said:

Update: YouTube, Twitch, and Twitter are pulling any and all videos of Cookie's Bustle (including Vinny's stream) and KHInsider is removing the game's soundtrack from their site

What's the story behind this, anyway?

The video that fmecha linked to is a really good summary of the Cookie's Bustle situation. www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk-stI_S4G8

It really does seem to be being actively erased from the internet.

There's also this article explaining the situation.: www.timeextension.com/news/2023/01/someone-is-trying-to-erase-this-obscure-japanese-video-game-from-the-internet
This appears to be the only thread on LMW mentioning Cookie's Bustle. It might be a good idea to make a thread for it specifically since the title of this thread indicates more of a general discussion of forcibily disappeared media (which I'm also interesed in discussing too by the way.)

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Deno New Member Posts: 12	Forcibly disappeared media? Feb 10, 2023 13:02:06 GMT lammyvox and extremewreck2000 like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by Deno on Feb 10, 2023 13:02:06 GMT I don't get why they're doing this. I mean, what do you even accomplish? Straight up destroying game preservation here.

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Forcibly disappeared media? Feb 10, 2023 19:09:51 GMT extremewreck2000 likes this

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Post by lammyvox on Feb 10, 2023 19:09:51 GMT

Feb 10, 2023 13:02:06 GMT Deno said:

I don't get why they're doing this. I mean, what do you even accomplish? Straight up destroying game preservation here.

Yeah, unfortunately people can be very selfish and rationalize nearly everything to fit their whims.

This other video by Patbytes also documents a similiar yet different situation in which some Bulgarian guy tried to change information all over the internet to credit himself as a composer for obscure Japanese games. He was called out for it and the rabbit-hole just get deeper as he buries himself in lies.

( www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5k-30Un9cM )

This guy came up with all sorts of crazy lore to support his lies, forged legal documents, made a few fake companies, a fake father (that he conveniently claimed later had passed away, yet the photo of him is a totally different unrelated person.) Although he didn't try to forcibly make media disappear (although he did try to copyright strike videos etc. that used "his" music) he did attempt to forcibly take credit for (and money on) obscure media that he never had anything to do with. This is the kind of person that I, and I assume many of you; can't stand especially in the lost media community.

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Post by fmecha on Jan 30, 2023 11:45:01 GMT

Post by Jr on Jan 30, 2023 15:59:38 GMT

Post by sakuraradiochan on Jan 30, 2023 18:20:11 GMT

Post by fmecha on Jan 31, 2023 1:37:27 GMT

Post by extremewreck2000 on Feb 5, 2023 1:52:40 GMT

Post by fmecha on Feb 8, 2023 7:54:41 GMT

Post by GrigioGuy on Feb 9, 2023 19:49:38 GMT

Post by crumbelivable on Feb 9, 2023 20:56:24 GMT

Post by lammyvox on Feb 10, 2023 1:19:27 GMT

Post by Deno on Feb 10, 2023 13:02:06 GMT

Post by lammyvox on Feb 10, 2023 19:09:51 GMT

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