Wow, that's great we finally are in contact with someone from Reagal again.
See it sucks though because I feel like we have to word our questions just right or else we'll scare them off. As we've discussed before... just jump straight to the point and ask him about ADWSS? And depending on how that goes you could ask him about the other higher-ups at Reagal in one way or another, since chances are he knows them or worked with them.
And to refer to what kobochat said, I GUARANTEE you that once this is found, everyone and their mother will act like they were searching for it with us the whole time and they'll try and give themselves credit.
Either that, or everyone will just suddenly become interested in it again now that all the hard work would be done.
Well then I guess it's back to trying to contact Lorenzo. Someone should make sure hastingsfag has what he need to get in contact with him after everything we've found within the past week or so.
Also, I say if a troll attack happens again we move everyone legit to a private message thread so we can actually make progress among ourselves.
Like think of how much time and thread space we wasted from this.
I'm just throwing this out there, do you think a troll would apologize so legitimately, or do you think his was just Gavin getting out of a hostile environment.
I mean honestly, I don't think we could really tell either way just from the short amount of time he was on here.
Plus, don't you think a troll would have tried to mess with us for a while longer??
I don't think anyone intentionally means to scare you off. We've just been on edge for a LONG time after our old discussion area was savagely attacked by trolls and fakers. Not to mention there have been 5 or 6 hoaxes of people claiming to have clips of the DVD or the DVD itself, and after a while we just have to question every little detail.
But thanks for answering my question. It would be great if eventually you were able to supply some kind of visuals from the movie to go along with the vectors we had.
@marisam Still not sure what I think of those. I checked out nickcentral.com and yeah it seems super legit. Maybe ThatsJustLo knew someone who works at Viacom and he gave him his login information.
and hastingsfag, yeah we have plenty of other leads to contact Lorenzo- it's pretty much pick your method and go for it.
The only reason why I'm so hesitant to condemn anyone is because in the slight chance that Gavin, ThatsJustLo, or anyone else is actually legit, we'd hate to shoo away a potential lead.
Does anyone remember way back on one of the 4chan threads, when Jason Boritz or whatever his name was actually showed up and everyone trolled him out? I'd hate for that to happen again.
The thing about Gavin is that I think it would be better to end up proving he's fake rather than shooing him out of here and then finding out he's legit. Like I said, I highly doubt he is legit, but it's better to be safe than sorry. There is a high possibility that Gavin is Johnhall AKA Babylon Josh, but the only reason why I didn't immediately make that comparison is because I read Johnhall's post and took it as a mockery to Gavin's. Like- Gavin is legit, and Johnhall is mocking Gavin's legit post. But I bet I'm stretching it. Anyway give him a couple days at most. Even though he's a "lawyer", if he has enough time to come and tell us a story, then he can find the time to reply to our questions.
And if the Nick server was just speculation, then I think we can confirm he was indeed a troll, though I really thought the server location or whatever showed up in the picture and that led people to the conclusion he was legit. I really think the whole "being in high school tumblr" thing proves enough, plus like you guys said, he never came back which rose my suspicion to begin with, and I also questioned how he knew they were leaked but never told us where or by who.
If Gavin does end up being fake he should be IP ban though.
@marisam, I have to agree with you that things don't line up completely with ThatsJustLo. I read through more of his tumblr and it REALLY sounds like he was in high school at the time. The only thing that confuses me was the location of those vector files, like how people were saying they were on a secure Nick server that someone would have had to try really hard to fake.
gavinh I have a question for you sir. If you're a lawyer- with probably better things to do- why bother helping a random website like this try and get their hands on a borderline illegal movie.
Wait, I thought we were able to confirm that guy was legit? Though, the idea of this asset manager willingly giving a random website property of the SpongeBob TV show that another company stole in the first place seems really far-fetched when you think about it.
I'm just really suspicious that he never came back. Like, he came, gave us the vectors, and left. Granted I guess he wouldn't really have had a reason to come back, but the whole thing is strange.
I'm almost tempted to repost the vectors and see if he comes around questioning us, because now that I think about it, I have no idea how he knew someone reposted them in the first place. He never gave a website and we never actually did prove that anyone did it.
I'm actually going to admit that there came a point where I glazed over the whole vector situation without really looking at the fine details. We took him as legit because it explains why Reagal is still in business and why no one from Reagal wants apart of ADWSS.
So wait, are we calling the vector guy fake, or at least putting suspicion on him now? I totally forget how we proved him as legit btw, I just thought there was a consensus that he was.
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The vectors were released (to us) when someone we confirmed to work for Viacom simply gave them out over at the old wiki. It was really an incredible lead that came out of nowhere; I wish more stuff like that would happen, or that he'd come back with more info.
Do you think it's a little strange he never came back to check on things?
I would say wait like another week or so, but if hastings hasn't been around in the past month there's no guarantee he'll be back in another week.
I think we could try calling him and seeing what happens. Worst case scenario is he hangs up on us. I don't really think it matters how many times he gets called, either he'll be willing to spill ADWSS info or not.
We just have to make sure he's back in the US. I assume he would be, but I can't confirm, as he hasn't tweeted since November and I'm not friends with him on Facebook so I can't see his timeline.
Oh, I took "Has anyone tried to contact" as you had his info and were going to contact him as long as no one else had done so already. My bad CartoonPizza.
And marisam, iirc hastings was always pretty busy and he only posted stuff when he had time. Maybe he's just been busy or temporarily forgot about this. Though I'm guessing there's a good chance Lorenzo is back in the US since it's been several weeks.
Someone will have to refresh me on what the deal with Charles Rand was. I remember he was the only one we couldn't contact but is it still possible to even do so? Not that he'd even be willing to talk to us, but still.
That's also pretty surprising that your non ADWSS email was still not responded to. But I guess I should expect no less from one of Lorenzo's companies.
And I just personally don't feel as though contacting mall management/UPS would be worth doing because I really don't think any information they could provide us (if any at all) would be useful for us to get in contact with people at Reagal who would know anything about ADWSS or even willing to pass on the contacts of other employees.
With that said though, if you guys still want to try it I would be interested in hearing the results.