Jewel productions does list a few silent films in their list catalogue here--"Outside The Law" from 1920 and "Heart of Humanity" from 1918. They also mention a documentary about sexuality on the list: www.worldcat.org/title/gender-line-extended/oclc/911887942
With a catalougue that holds silent films and a film about sexuality in a probably incomplete list seems like a pretty great place to find "Children of Loneliness".
I wonder if they were also released on 8mm. If that's the case i could look for some of them since i have an old 8mm projector lying around in my room. I have no films, though.
The "Kodascope" rental library released some rare/lost stuff on 8mm in the early 30s, but they are really hard to find and other than the occasional bootleg nothing lost shows up on 8mm. My friend did find a unidentifiable (even the russian GosFilmoFund didn't know!) russian comedy on 8mm. For stuff on 8mm you have to be real lucky. Even if you dont have a projector, anytime you see a films somewhere, unspool it a little and try to find a title and report it here.
I emailed the guy who runs the Nitrate Vaults at the Library of Congress. This is what he said about ingagi.
Howdy!
Yes, we have THREE nitrate prints of Ingagi. One has been preserved to acetate film.
Regards,
Geo.
It's been found. It's in good hands. I'll talk to him some other time about if they're going to release it. Glad we can now finally know that the first found footage movie is safe and found.
Well, the Museum of The Moving Image played some episodes from Sid and on this listing it says they played a behind the scenes short before the film. Here's the link: www.movingimage.us/visit/calendar/2017/07/30/detail/sid-the-science-kid It might just be the other BTS short from earlier though.
God, I know this is an old post, but where was this written on the forum? If there is proof of this film existing thats a holy grail! Have you tried contacting him since then?
A lot of times films were rented, from libraries run by Kodak and other companies, so some people could buy a projector, but not even have to own any films. These libraries would close down and the prints would be sold to anybody for cheap.
They would also be copied for film collectors, and sometimes when they passed away their film prints were sold instead of sent to an archive. They also were aired on TV in the fifties, so copies of films show up everywhere, people just need to look for them and find them before they're gone.
A man named Ben Model actually has released three DVD's comprising of only lost films found on 16mm film. Most of it is from his collection. eBay is well covered when it comes to people looking for lost films, but not enough people are looking in their local antique places.
So next time anyone who sees this thread is at an antique store or flea market, look out for some films, and if you can afford them (they don't usually sell for that much) you should try and get them.
WARNING: Don't buy any films release by "Castle Films" or "Official Films" because they did not release any rare stuff. That stuff exists by the millions, so don't get 'em if you're looking for lost media.
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I was just wondering if anyone has ever come across reels of film at flea markets, antique stores, attics, etc. Many theatrical shorts of the 1920s (especially comedies) were released for home use on smaller, non-flammable film stocks. As you may know, the stuff they used in the theatres (nitrate film) can blow up or turn to dust.
These home movie films can decay, but not as seriously as nitrate can, and it doesn't explode. A lot of the times this is the only way these silent films survive, on non-explosive 16mm home movie film.
If any of you find some old films in your attic or wherever, please post about it on this thread.
It's a race against time, if these things stay in the humid attics for much longer, nothing will be able to be salvaged.
Remember, almost 90% of silent films are today considered to be lost, but that can change!
Guys! I think this is big. Craig emailed me back and confirmed that it's real. Here's the email:
Hi, Shane -
It was pulled from circulation after the first broadcast because it apparently scared kids. I imagine the Sesame people want to keep it under wraps, but in the future, I might try to see if they’re willing to do a screening of “Lost Sesame Stuff.”
So yeah, It exists and the sesame people have a copy. So even if we have to wait, a copy does exist, and its in good hands. So, we'll just have to wait it seems like, and someone who has connections is trying to get it released.
I know that this topic hasn't been touched on in ages, but I know Craig Shemin, the president of the Jim Henson Legacy. I can shoot him an email and let you know what he says.
I wanted to talk about this film called "Children of Loneliness" which is probably the earliest film dealing with LGBT issues, although not very well. All that exists is the synopsis, a few stills and a few advertisements. Remember, the famous "Reefer Madness" is from 1937, and that film exists, I find it weird that this, a very similar film in theme, is nowhere to be found, but all these other campy films from the era do. It's not gonna be online anywhere, and the Library of Congress doesn't have a copy. If anyone can find any company that re-released it or any film collector who allegedly had a copy, maybe we could track down a print.