I also noticed that in the aired version they say JFK "Had camelot" and in the CD version they say "He got shot", which makes a lot more sense! As well as Thomas Jefferson "writing the constitution" on the CD version, that innacuracy was fixed in the aired version (he wrote the Declaration of Independance).
Last Edit: Feb 2, 2018 22:54:43 GMT by nitratenerd
Most everyone has heard of The Room, known as the greatest bad movie ever made, the "Citizen Kane of bad movies." Since the movie first became popular, it has become a pop culture phenomenon, spawning parodies, fan games and the book account of The Room's production written by Greg Sestero, The Disaster Artist.
One of the most interesting revelations from The Disaster Artist for me was that director Tommy Wiseau had hired someone to hang out on the set of The Room and film everyone's activity behind the scenes, essentially creating a documentary about the production of The Room. Aside from some very heavily edited behind the scenes footage on the DVD and some other clips online, not nearly the entirety of the footage has ever been released.
What does everyone think about this? Would you guys like to see the rest of the behind the scenes footage that Tommy Wiseau filmed?
oh GOD yes. This might get released soon, or we'll just have to pry it from Tommy Wiseau's cold, dead hands.
I think that in order to find this, we ought to ask ourselves what kind of cinema would have aired this at the time. We can guess that it would not have been a mainstream film. Would some documentary film festivals have shown this? If we can find an old listing maybe we can find a theater that still has an old copy!
I don't believe this is a documentary, so it would not have played at any documentary film festivals. One of the articles referenced on the Wiki page did say it "played in dingy dives specializing in adult-only films that neither applied for nor would be granted Production Code certificates". However, it's difficult to say if the theaters are still around or if they still have any copies. First, our good friend nitrate film could come in to play, so the film could have naturally deteriorated over time (like many, many other films made during this period). Second, there are probably very few theaters from this time still around, since a dingy adult-only movie theater seems like the type of thing that doesn't always stay around for decades. And third, I don't believe we know how many copies of the film were made, so we don't know if the theaters were allowed to keep the copy they showed. At the beginning of the industry, films would "tour around", so once the run is up at one theater, the people putting on the tour would take the film with them to show at the next theater, kind of like a play or band on tour. I don't know if it was still as common place in the 30's, but it's still possible a smaller production would do this for financial reasons.
I would guess maybe we could locate this in a smaller archive or collection that specializes in cult films or film considered to be partially “educational” as this was a drama made to also “educate the public”. Theaters arent the way to go.
I've found some clues for what could have happened to Jewel Productions. The moviestaff website listed a "Jewel Productions Inc." (which could be the Jewel Productions that made the film), so I searched for that and found a book on the American film industry. The entry for Jewel Productions Inc. says that, in 1919, they "consolidated [their] offices with those of Universal", who would later release films under the Jewel name. It listed as a source a film trade journal called The Moving Picture World, so I went to the article (page 1206), where it said that Jewel was working with a "Universal Film Manufacturing Company", which turned into the Universal Pictures we know and love. It's possible that they might have something from the film, assuming it's the same Jewel Productions Inc.
This is a different Jewel Productions for sure, but great searching! The whole "Universal-Jewel" thing was discarded in the mid-20s, a decade before Children of Loneliness.
What I can't find though, is whoever owns the building 723 7th Ave, where the other "Jewel" offices were, and see if we can contact them and find more insight.
hey everyone. there is a very old slient flim Based on the Popular 1885 poem "Little Orphant Annie" the flim was released in 1918 and it was lost until it was released On dvd And Vhs in the 1990s. But it was uncomplete. in 2016 A kickstarter for the restoration of the complete flim came and In 2017 a restored version was released on dvd: www.amazon.com/Little-Orphant-Annie-Blu-ray-Combo/dp/B076ZFSNMM/ref=tmm_dvd_title_1?_encoding=UTF8&qid=&sr=. however. the flim was never released online or on Archive.org
if anyone has a dvd rip of this slient flim. Let Me know and the flim is in the public domain.
-kevin cook
That's called pirating. If your interested in the film, buy the Blu-Ray, don't steal from this guy. The guy's name is Eric Grayson and he pretty much did the restoration by himself, a passion project of his. Even though the film is in the public domain, the restoration and music is copyrighted. Eric Grayson is a real champion of lost films/media, and I implore you not to try to steal from one of our (few) lost media allys.
Okay, I went to the building. Its partially a recording studio now. There was no doorman so I just walked in and into the stairway.
Also since there was no doorman, there wasnt anyone to ask about anything. I walked up and down the stairwell opening every unlocked door. Nothing.
I even went to the basement, there were several locked doors, and some of the locks looked old. I chickened out and ventured no further because there were security cameras in the other parts of the basement.
Its possible that maybe there could be some sort of locked up storage unit down there, but I’ll have to contact the landlord or something...I don’t want to get caught breaking and entering into a closet.
Would Jewel Productions still be there just because the building is? Or could it be in some storage area?
I was just looking for general clues, and maybe an old closet thats been locked since the 40s...
Okay, I went to the building. Its partially a recording studio now. There was no doorman so I just walked in and into the stairway.
Also since there was no doorman, there wasnt anyone to ask about anything. I walked up and down the stairwell opening every unlocked door. Nothing.
I even went to the basement, there were several locked doors, and some of the locks looked old. I chickened out and ventured no further because there were security cameras in the other parts of the basement.
Its possible that maybe there could be some sort of locked up storage unit down there, but I’ll have to contact the landlord or something...I don’t want to get caught breaking and entering into a closet.
From the looks of it on google maps, the building still stands, it looks old. I'll try to head over there sometime this week, just to see if I can find any remnants of this company.
And be on the lookout for films from this period with titles that sound very exploitation-y like "Perverted Love" or "The Lonely Sex" or what have you, we don't know how many different titles this film could have had.
Last Edit: Jan 23, 2018 1:20:59 GMT by nitratenerd
I see a lot of posts regarding pieces of media that are actually lost. Meaning no one really knows where they are, including the creators, if the creators can be found at all. And I also see posts regarding other pieces of media like "Lost" SNL Sketches or "Lost" Nickelodeon sitcoms, or even the famous "Lost" wicked witch sesame street episode. All of those things are not lost, but unavailable, because the people who own them have not released them to the general public.
Should there be a separate boards for lost media (creators/owners don't know where they are, if we even can find/contact the creators) and for unreleased media, (stuff that is for sure sitting in archives, but not being released) so that there could be separate threads, for searching and for petitioning, respectively?