I will say there is a difference between liking the creative works of someone with problematic views and actively endorsing said viewpoints. I don't care if Mr Bones is a fan of Doug's works or not, I still like the games and the TV shows Doug worked on even if he is a shitty human being, so until Mr Bones starts spouting the same alt-right viewpoints that Doug is i'm going to withhold my judgement for now. There are lots of people with shitty views or people who have done shitty things whose art I enjoy(Ted Nugent, Kid Rock, Dave Mustaine, Robert Davi, James Woods, Rob Schneider, Randy Quaid, Kristy Swanson, Kirstie Alley, Roseanne, Eric Clapton, Terry Gilliam, John Cleese, Kirk Cameron, Graham Lineham, J.K. Rowling, Bret Easton Ellis, Rose McGowan, just to name a few).
I had no clue there was even was an EJ reboot coming, that's news to me. Did Mr Bones specifically shit on the reboot because Doug wasn't involved? Or did he say he just thinks it looks bad in general?
never heard of Whang! before.
I understand, as I do kinda like EJ myself. Though the thing is he did shit on the reboot mainly due to the lack of Doug's involvement, of course him not liking the look of it is probably also a reason, but the first part I recall being more specifically highlighted.
Even so that does not necessarily mean he agrees with Doug's views, I think he just thinks the new show won't be as good without his involvement. I've looked at his Twitter and i've not seen any red flags.
Wow now that's a flattering comparison as that dude is pretty badass! Anyways in the interest of keeping the peace i'm willing to declare a truce for now, that does not mean I won't voice my disagreements with certain things in the future, but at the very least I think this thread has run it's course and i've got no interest in beating a dead horse.
DarkRage:
OK, I accept your terms and agree to the truce. It makes sense.
All involved have better, more-constructive uses of our time.
The end goals of yours and mine are basically the same, anyway. We are just going about them using different means.
Post by Princess Viola on Oct 8, 2022 16:35:51 GMT
Right, I don't know what the hell happened in this thread and, quite frankly, I don't really care either. But here's some of my unpopular lost media opinions:
- I genuinely cannot bring myself to care about 99% of lost commercial or lost network bumper searches. It's one thing if we're talking about trying to find adverts that people distinctly remember or were otherwise notable in some way, but just trying to find some completely random advert that isn't notable at all other than 'well I can't find any uploads of it online' just ain't it for me. Same thing with network bumpers, if they're notable in some way, that's fine, but shit like 'oh we gotta find this one random specific bumper variant from the kid's channel aimed at preschoolers from around 2011' is just like why?
- Trying to find lost media that involves footage of someone's death is creepy and honestly disrespectful to their families. I understand that subjects like the Christine Chubbuck suicide tape or the Timothy Treadwell bear attack audio will always attract discussion and curiosity because they are such interesting topics to talk about, but it should be left at that - talking about the topic. Besides, this is the internet, while I'm not going to link to any of it (because I know it's against the rules to do so), you can easily find videos and photos of people committing suicide, dying, etc. on various websites if you really wanna see that shit.
- Lost media being treated like something 'creepy' or 'scary' is honestly embarrassing. While there are definitely things that are lost that are creepy or scary, lost media as a whole is not and acting like it is makes the whole topic come off as bad creepypasta level stuff.
- Similar to my opinion about searches for lost adverts or lost bumpers, I have very mixed feelings about searches for lost YouTube videos. Videos that a lot of people watched (an example being the lost Super Mario 64 screamer video) or were by someone who had at least some audience (and I am very lenient on this part, we could be talking about a channel that had like 600 subs and their videos typically got like 150-200 views here; it's a small audience, but it's still an audience) is something I can understand trying to find, but wanting to find some random YouTube video you remember watching when you were like 12 or something is honestly a pointless endeavor, especially if it's a video that only you remember. Chances of someone having downloaded and saved the video is very slim.
- I think some members of the lost media community need to understand the concept of argumentum ad ignorantium (argument from ignorance), which is the logical fallacy that asserts that something is true because it has not yet been proven false or that something is false because it has not yet been proven true. I bring this up because you will sometimes see people discussing certain infamous topics of lost media (ones that people have been searching for a several years, we have never found any concrete evidence towards its existence or non-existence, and we have almost no secondary sources [such as people who remember the topic] about the media either) and they will insist that we cannot dismiss it as being false entirely because we've never found any actual proof that this piece of lost media doesn't exist.
Last Edit: Oct 8, 2022 16:36:34 GMT by Princess Viola: why was my text so big lmao
Right, I don't know what the hell happened in this thread and, quite frankly, I don't really care either. But here's some of my unpopular lost media opinions:
- I genuinely cannot bring myself to care about 99% of lost commercial or lost network bumper searches. It's one thing if we're talking about trying to find adverts that people distinctly remember or were otherwise notable in some way, but just trying to find some completely random advert that isn't notable at all other than 'well I can't find any uploads of it online' just ain't it for me. Same thing with network bumpers, if they're notable in some way, that's fine, but shit like 'oh we gotta find this one random specific bumper variant from the kid's channel aimed at preschoolers from around 2011' is just like why?
- Trying to find lost media that involves footage of someone's death is creepy and honestly disrespectful to their families. I understand that subjects like the Christine Chubbuck suicide tape or the Timothy Treadwell bear attack audio will always attract discussion and curiosity because they are such interesting topics to talk about, but it should be left at that - talking about the topic. Besides, this is the internet, while I'm not going to link to any of it (because I know it's against the rules to do so), you can easily find videos and photos of people committing suicide, dying, etc. on various websites if you really wanna see that shit.
- Lost media being treated like something 'creepy' or 'scary' is honestly embarrassing. While there are definitely things that are lost that are creepy or scary, lost media as a whole is not and acting like it is makes the whole topic come off as bad creepypasta level stuff.
- Similar to my opinion about searches for lost adverts or lost bumpers, I have very mixed feelings about searches for lost YouTube videos. Videos that a lot of people watched (an example being the lost Super Mario 64 screamer video) or were by someone who had at least some audience (and I am very lenient on this part, we could be talking about a channel that had like 600 subs and their videos typically got like 150-200 views here; it's a small audience, but it's still an audience) is something I can understand trying to find, but wanting to find some random YouTube video you remember watching when you were like 12 or something is honestly a pointless endeavor, especially if it's a video that only you remember. Chances of someone having downloaded and saved the video is very slim.
- I think some members of the lost media community need to understand the concept of argumentum ad ignorantium (argument from ignorance), which is the logical fallacy that asserts that something is true because it has not yet been proven false or that something is false because it has not yet been proven true. I bring this up because you will sometimes see people discussing certain infamous topics of lost media (ones that people have been searching for a several years, we have never found any concrete evidence towards its existence or non-existence, and we have almost no secondary sources [such as people who remember the topic] about the media either) and they will insist that we cannot dismiss it as being false entirely because we've never found any actual proof that this piece of lost media doesn't exist.
agreed 100% on all of this, that last point is why I will never ever believe that Go For a Punch exists unless actual hard evidence turns up that suggests it does, some random guy on the internet(Who possibly might've been drunk or high and hallucinated the whole thing BTW)claiming it exists alone just isn't good enough for me.
My Unpopular (or not) opinion: people can talk about whatever they want to talk about, and if one does not like a particular subject, or finds it disrespectful, you are not the topic gestapo and stop trying to be. Change the channel if you don’t like it,instead of trying to silence things that get your sensitive feelings in an uproar.
My Unpopular (or not) opinion: people can talk about whatever they want to talk about, and if one does not like a particular subject, or finds it disrespectful, you are not the topic gestapo and stop trying to be. Change the channel if you don’t like it,instead of trying to silence things that get your sensitive feelings in an uproar.
my unpopular opinion, people like you who blatantly ignore the mods authority should be banned.
Only one with "sensitive feelings in an uproar" here is you troll cause others have pointed out you can't talk about NSFL stuff anymore and you just want an excuse to let out your sicko desires on here. Tough fucking shit, if you want to talk wanting to see Owen Hart's corpse go to 4chan, we don't need that shit here.
Post by thatgamingasshole on Oct 31, 2022 18:45:39 GMT
Okay here's an popular opinion: there comes a point when trying to, I don't know, "contain hate speech" or whatever the Hell you think you're doing is slowly eroding people's right to speak. You are not God, you are not anyone, you are some helium voice 12 year old on the internet screaming at people and sniping at them from a distance.
No one has to listen to you, no one has to care about you, no one has to respect you. The same thing is true about me, but the difference is that I don't actively go after people and act like some kind of idiotic attack dog whenever someone says something that I don't like. You are not important, you are some guy on the internet (and I'm using term guy loosely, cuz I think little boy is a more accurate term) with a God complex okay, so how about this...I'll tell you to shut the Hell up and you take my advice and do it.
There, there's a very popular opinion it seems.
This is literally by the way the second thread...I'm sorry I think third...that you completely derailed with your nonsense. No one here is afraid of you, no one here cares. I barely care because you actually came after me with some kind of inane racist crap, calling me Larry elder as if that's some sort of insult (spoiler warning it's not) and the only reason anyone else ever even noticed you is because you seem to be stalking other people and constantly dismantling threads. All you're doing is being antagonistic and authoritarian, for no reason at all, you don't hold power over anyone or anything and even if you did I still wouldn't give a damn what you think.
So allow me to repeat myself, in case you missed it over your arrogant self entitled screeching, you're not God, I repeat, YOU ARE NOT GOD. You're some teenager on the internet who likes to snipe at people at distance cuz you know that no one can ever confront you in real life.
Post by thatgamingasshole on Oct 31, 2022 18:52:36 GMT
Now, if someone wants to ban me, go for it. But I've never actively threatened or insulted anyone because they disappeared with my opinions or made accusations about other people OR turned threads in on themselves like black holes. So if I get kicked out for telling off this dude, what ever, but someone has to do something.
Something needs to be done because this is becoming a weekly event.
Once again, the only two rules donot mention not talking about nsfl. It says not to contact people involved and no links. Unless I’m missing something, in which case show me, don’t just tell me I am.
Okay here's an popular opinion: there comes a point when trying to, I don't know, "contain hate speech" or whatever the Hell you think you're doing is slowly eroding people's right to speak. You are not God, you are not anyone, you are some helium voice 12 year old on the internet screaming at people and sniping at them from a distance.
No one has to listen to you, no one has to care about you, no one has to respect you. The same thing is true about me, but the difference is that I don't actively go after people and act like some kind of idiotic attack dog whenever someone says something that I don't like. You are not important, you are some guy on the internet (and I'm using term guy loosely, cuz I think little boy is a more accurate term) with a God complex okay, so how about this...I'll tell you to shut the Hell up and you take my advice and do it.
There, there's a very popular opinion it seems.
This is literally by the way the second thread...I'm sorry I think third...that you completely derailed with your nonsense. No one here is afraid of you, no one here cares. I barely care because you actually came after me with some kind of inane racist crap, calling me Larry elder as if that's some sort of insult (spoiler warning it's not) and the only reason anyone else ever even noticed you is because you seem to be stalking other people and constantly dismantling threads. All you're doing is being antagonistic and authoritarian, for no reason at all, you don't hold power over anyone or anything and even if you did I still wouldn't give a damn what you think.
So allow me to repeat myself, in case you missed it over your arrogant self entitled screeching, you're not God, I repeat, YOU ARE NOT GOD. You're some teenager on the internet who likes to snipe at people at distance cuz you know that no one can ever confront you in real life.
oh do shut up and go back to consuming white supremacists like The Quartering.
only "idiot attack dog" with a "god complex" I see doing any "arrogant self entitled screeching" here is you nazi troll.
spoiler warning-you're full of shit.
Uh plenty of people noticed me because i've actually made significant lost media finds, what the fuck have you done recently besides whine like a goddamn crybaby?
No you take my advice and shut the hell up, you're not the fucking boss of me. Only one being "antagonistic and authoritarian" here right now is you.
don't have a "helium voice" and i'm in my 30s genius, so shows what you know, you're just some whiny-voiced 8-year old who needs a good hard spanking.
Never claimed I was "important" or god, my god your reading comprehension is next-level awful.
Only one I see derailing anything with nonsense here is you, now go back to stanning Kanye and wearing "white lives matter" shirts or whatever stupid shit you do in your spare time..
I can and have in fact confronted people in real life genius(but i'll bet you sure as hell haven't). You spout bigoted nonsense all the damn time and attack anything that has non-white and non-straight people in it, i'd say that's way worse than anything i've ever posted.
How about this, I tell you fuck off and get lost forever and you do it for the sake of humanity so nobody else has to be infected by your smooth-brained stupidity?
I'm not "eroding", "dismantling" or "stalking" anything, now quit acting like a spoiled brat, it's pathetic.
I think infant is a more appropriate term for you since that's how you act whenever anyone dares to call you on your ignorant-ass opinions.
If you "barely care" you wouldn't have posted this pathetic teenage edgelord strawman rant, i'm not buying it.
Allow me to repeat myself in case your molecule-sized brain and puny mind couldn't comprehend it-you are nothing but an insignificant troll and that's all you'll ever be.