Hmmmm, baseball in Japanese (the most common way to say it) is "野球/yakyuu". In katakana (more English sounding) it would be "ベースボール/beesubooru", but this saying is less common. Assuming Yeah Yeah Beebiss is a romanization of a Japanese title, the "yeah" could have been "野球/yakyuu". Although it might be a stretch, since "野球/yakyuu" doesn't really sound like "yeah", but it could be a poor romanization at that
There is one game on here called Famicom Yakyuu Ban which is a baseball game, not sure where the Yeah Yeahs would come in to be honest. My theory was that it was a typo instead of a mistranslation, so they got baseball right but then fat fingered typing it out. Which sounds like a stretch, but I am prone to bad typos myself so I can see it happening. Especially on a type writer, if that's what they used. Also the other mistakes points to someone quickly putting together the list, or maybe being careless when doing it.
Do you know how it was eliminated? People stopped saying it was Dweebers and when I asked why, turns out there wasn't a good reason so I gotta scrutinize.
Well, apparently someone looked into the game list, & there was no other mention of any unlicensed NES games, so that ended up ruling Baby Boomer out. Plus, looking into the game's code doesn't mention the name anywhere.
While I doubt it was Baby Boomer since all of the titles on the list were either licensed or Tengen, as unlicensed games were quite rare at the time (also, Baby Boomer didn't come out until November 1989: archive.org/details/GamePro_Issue_005_December_1989/page/n53/mode/2up?q=%22color+dreams%22), I think to me at least there was never a game that actually went by the title of "Yeah Yeah Beebiss," so the name not being in the code doesn't matter.
The errors original to this list seem to be: Caracresta, Hector Vector, Hulk Hogan, Mission XX (?, it seems this might've been a retitling I've seen elsewhere), Star Force II, Thunder Blade, Touchdown, and of course Yeah Yeah Beebiss I. With the exception of Thunder Blade (which is likely a miscategorized Sega Master System game), I have a feeling these titles could've all come from the same source, or similar sources. Many of these errors (Caracresta, Hulk Hogan, Star Force II, Touchdown) seem to be false titles for other games on the list, and "Hector Vector" could be "Starship Hector." It could have been that somewhere in the communication process, some of the source's titles got corrupted (maybe said "There's this game with Hulk Hogan on the cover," and someone just wrote down "Hulk Hogan" and ran with it, and maybe also misheard "Caracresta.")
There is one game on here called Famicom Yakyuu Ban which is a baseball game, not sure where the Yeah Yeahs would come in to be honest. My theory was that it was a typo instead of a mistranslation, so they got baseball right but then fat fingered typing it out. Which sounds like a stretch, but I am prone to bad typos myself so I can see it happening. Especially on a type writer, if that's what they used. Also the other mistakes points to someone quickly putting together the list, or maybe being careless when doing it.
Holy shit, I think you just solved it!
Assuming the game was Yakyuu Ban: The Yeahs could come from the Yakyuu, but that doesn't explain why there are 2 Yeahs in "Yeah Yeah Beebiss I" when Yakyuu Ban only has one "Yakyuu" The "Beebiss" could have been a very poor romanization of "Ban"
Yakyuu Ban in Japanese is spelt as "野球盤" in Kanji. "盤" means board, so not sure how "Ban/Board" became "Beebiss" This theory that Yeah Yeah Beebiss I is Yakyuu Ban also doesn't explain where the 1 came from in the title.
This website here (https://www.giantbomb.com/famicom-yakyuu-ban/3030-49203/) says that the game Yakyuu Ban was based on a toy line called Yakyuuban by Epoch. I found an Amazon link to one of the toys (not sure if it is a newer version but likely): www.amazon.com/Yakyuuban-Double-Slugger-Extream-Baseball/dp/B00B1K3T9M
The site also said that Yakyuu Ban is a spiritual successor to this game: www.giantbomb.com/baseball/3025-4088/ Maybe the 1 in Yeah Yeah Beebiss 1 is meant to reference this? But that doesn't explain why the numbering starts at 1 and not 4 (there are 3 games in the game series Yakyuu Ban spiritually succeeds)
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Well, apparently someone looked into the game list, & there was no other mention of any unlicensed NES games, so that ended up ruling Baby Boomer out. Plus, looking into the game's code doesn't mention the name anywhere.
While I doubt it was Baby Boomer since all of the titles on the list were either licensed or Tengen, as unlicensed games were quite rare at the time (also, Baby Boomer didn't come out until November 1989: archive.org/details/GamePro_Issue_005_December_1989/page/n53/mode/2up?q=%22color+dreams%22), I think to me at least there was never a game that actually went by the title of "Yeah Yeah Beebiss," so the name not being in the code doesn't matter.
The errors original to this list seem to be: Caracresta, Hector Vector, Hulk Hogan, Mission XX (?, it seems this might've been a retitling I've seen elsewhere), Star Force II, Thunder Blade, Touchdown, and of course Yeah Yeah Beebiss I. With the exception of Thunder Blade (which is likely a miscategorized Sega Master System game), I have a feeling these titles could've all come from the same source, or similar sources. Many of these errors (Caracresta, Hulk Hogan, Star Force II, Touchdown) seem to be false titles for other games on the list, and "Hector Vector" could be "Starship Hector." It could have been that somewhere in the communication process, some of the source's titles got corrupted (maybe said "There's this game with Hulk Hogan on the cover," and someone just wrote down "Hulk Hogan" and ran with it, and maybe also misheard "Caracresta.")
Isn't "Mission XX" a mistitling of Mission X, which wasn't even released for the NES(it was released in the arcades, & the Intellivision, but not the NES).
There is one game on here called Famicom Yakyuu Ban which is a baseball game, not sure where the Yeah Yeahs would come in to be honest. My theory was that it was a typo instead of a mistranslation, so they got baseball right but then fat fingered typing it out. Which sounds like a stretch, but I am prone to bad typos myself so I can see it happening. Especially on a type writer, if that's what they used. Also the other mistakes points to someone quickly putting together the list, or maybe being careless when doing it.
Holy shit, I think you just solved it!
"Baseball" being mistyped as "Beebiss" seems odd to me, but I doubt much communication in that age was typed out, so if it was a mistake, it probably would've been a handwriting one, which actually seems plausible to me ("as" read as "e", "a" as "i," the Ss were read as Ls).
However, I can find no other evidence this game was ever going to be released in the United States. That's also the case for Rai Rai Kyonshi, which makes that theory just as likely as this one IMO, but all of the other games on the list were mentioned as being slated for a US release in some other publication, except for maybe Mission XX. Also, nothing about this list indicates to me that whoever made it was reading from the Japanese (hurting this and Kyonshi as possibilities), and I doubt an official translation would replace "Yakyuu" with "Yeah Yeah." Also, this game hadn't even come out in Japan when the catalog was created. TBF, that's true for some of the other Japanese games on this list too, but those had been teased in the American press as well. And while baseball games were common on the NES and release, there aren't that many that were planned for an American release that didn't come out, and I can't find an example of a baseball game that was definitely released in Japan that was planned to be released here but wasn't.
While I doubt it was Baby Boomer since all of the titles on the list were either licensed or Tengen, as unlicensed games were quite rare at the time (also, Baby Boomer didn't come out until November 1989: archive.org/details/GamePro_Issue_005_December_1989/page/n53/mode/2up?q=%22color+dreams%22), I think to me at least there was never a game that actually went by the title of "Yeah Yeah Beebiss," so the name not being in the code doesn't matter.
The errors original to this list seem to be: Caracresta, Hector Vector, Hulk Hogan, Mission XX (?, it seems this might've been a retitling I've seen elsewhere), Star Force II, Thunder Blade, Touchdown, and of course Yeah Yeah Beebiss I. With the exception of Thunder Blade (which is likely a miscategorized Sega Master System game), I have a feeling these titles could've all come from the same source, or similar sources. Many of these errors (Caracresta, Hulk Hogan, Star Force II, Touchdown) seem to be false titles for other games on the list, and "Hector Vector" could be "Starship Hector." It could have been that somewhere in the communication process, some of the source's titles got corrupted (maybe said "There's this game with Hulk Hogan on the cover," and someone just wrote down "Hulk Hogan" and ran with it, and maybe also misheard "Caracresta.")
Isn't "Mission XX" a mistitling of Mission X, which wasn't even released for the NES(it was released in the arcades, & the Intellivision, but not the NES).
Hey I'm just gonna clarify some stuff instead of quoting everyone:
1) Didn't one of the lists claim they got info about these games 8 months before they were going to be released? Or am I misunderstanding this? I know that doesn't make sense for Yakyuu Ban regardless, but thought I'd ask.
2) Would be it smart to look at what baseball games did get released and compare?
3) A handwriting error makes way more sense, of course there is no way to prove that happened though.
Edit: My only evidence for my theory is that beebiss seems similar to baseball, there are a handful of baseball games that came out in 1989, and the list is riddled with errors so a really bad typo does not seem implausible to me. I know my evidence is not strong, but if Rai Rai can be a contender, I think my theory can stand alongside it tbh.
Edit Edit: someone also pointed out pages ago that the 1 could mean it's the only one in the series? Someone explained the one before.
Hey I'm just gonna clarify some stuff instead of quoting everyone:
1) Didn't one of the lists claim they got info about these games 8 months before they were going to be released? Or am I misunderstanding this? I know that doesn't make sense for Yakyuu Ban regardless, but thought I'd ask.
2) Would be it smart to look at what baseball games did get released and compare?
3) A handwriting error makes way more sense, of course there is no way to prove that happened though.
Edit: My only evidence for my theory is that beebiss seems similar to baseball, there are a handful of baseball games that came out in 1989, and the list is riddled with errors so a really bad typo does not seem implausible to me. I know my evidence is not strong, but if Rai Rai can be a contender, I think my theory can stand alongside it tbh.
Edit Edit: someone also pointed out pages ago that the 1 could mean it's the only one in the series? Someone explained the one before.
I explained that since Flying Dragon: The Secret Scroll is listed as Flying Dragon I, it could be the shortening of a subtitle.
Hey I'm just gonna clarify some stuff instead of quoting everyone:
1) Didn't one of the lists claim they got info about these games 8 months before they were going to be released? Or am I misunderstanding this? I know that doesn't make sense for Yakyuu Ban regardless, but thought I'd ask.
2) Would be it smart to look at what baseball games did get released and compare?
3) A handwriting error makes way more sense, of course there is no way to prove that happened though.
Edit: My only evidence for my theory is that beebiss seems similar to baseball, there are a handful of baseball games that came out in 1989, and the list is riddled with errors so a really bad typo does not seem implausible to me. I know my evidence is not strong, but if Rai Rai can be a contender, I think my theory can stand alongside it tbh.
Edit Edit: someone also pointed out pages ago that the 1 could mean it's the only one in the series? Someone explained the one before.
I explained that since Flying Dragon: The Secret Scroll is listed as Flying Dragon I, it could be the shortening of a subtitle.
I had a quick theory that the source of much of the information went to the Winter 1989 Consumer Electronic Show. This one image from Nintendo Power shows that many of the games which wound up on the list were on display there: static.wikia.nocookie.net/nintendo/images/8/8c/CES_1989_NP.jpg
A big problem is that Ninja Gaiden had already acquired its new name by then, and Bad Dudes was a newcomer to the June list too, so I don't know where "Dragon Ninja" could have come from anew if the source was just 1989 CES. Also, many new games showed off at CES didn't make onto the list at all, so this can't be the whole story. Still, this is worth looking into, I think a convention could explain things. I got the idea since the first mention of Dweebers was in a catalog from a CES in 1989, albeit probably the summer one.
So there's mis-spelt names, games that seemingly didn't exist, a wrong alphabetical order, games listed years before release while saying they can get them within 40 days, names that seem to refer games already on the list with a different name and also several cancelled games...I get the impression that they might have had no idea about it themselves but put it there anyway. It's not like this is a case of a well managed list with all accounted for except a single game. There's baffling errors all over the place.
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So there's mis-spelt names, games that seemingly didn't exist, a wrong alphabetical order, games listed years before release while saying they can get them within 40 days, names that seem to refer games already on the list with a different name and also several cancelled games...I get the impression that they might have had no idea about it themselves but put it there anyway. It's not like this is a case of a well managed list with all accounted for except a single game. There's baffling errors all over the place.
Next thing we know, someone would look deeper into these lists, & find some freakin' Atari 2600 games listed on there.
2) Would be it smart to look at what baseball games did get released and compare?
3) A handwriting error makes way more sense, of course there is no way to prove that happened though.
Edit Edit: someone also pointed out pages ago that the 1 could mean it's the only one in the series? Someone explained the one before.
Gonna respond to some points below: 2. Which games did get released out of that list that were baseball related?
3. I agree, as either the localization team of the game or the people writing up the game list could have easily made translation/romanization errors. The translation/romanization errors make sense, as things like Deepl and Google Translate did not exist, and they most likely only had an English to Japanese/Japanese to English dictionary to go off of.
Edit Edit: That is possible as well
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2) Would be it smart to look at what baseball games did get released and compare?
3) A handwriting error makes way more sense, of course there is no way to prove that happened though.
Edit Edit: someone also pointed out pages ago that the 1 could mean it's the only one in the series? Someone explained the one before.
Gonna respond to some points below: 2. Which games did get released out of that list that were baseball related?
3. I agree, as either the localization team of the game or the people writing up the game list could have easily made translation/romanization errors. The translation/romanization errors make sense, as things like Deepl and Google Translate did not exist, and they most likely only had an English to Japanese/Japanese to English dictionary to go off of.
Edit Edit: That is possible as well
I don't know offhand, but I'm gonna take a look at some of the lists on my computer opposed to trying on mobile. I keep missing things others have linked because it's awkward to access them from my phone and then I end up overlooking a lot. I'm gonna finish what I'm doing and look at everything in the thread, in particular TPFSV posted a lot that was helpful. Do we know what time frame would make sense for these games to be released in correlation with the list? I guess Yakyuu Ban being in December is too late, which makes sense since it's a Japan release. So is December in America too late though? Only talking about what would have been released, opposed to not existing/unreleased or whatever.
Here's my spreadsheet again, it's now finished (at least regarding info on the games in the Beebiss version of the catalog): docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1FrreLu2ws6IgZ5zk8VKq9a95Fogcx9THrFAdfxmPOSQ/edit#gid=0 Many games that didn't come out in the US until 1990 are on the list. Some games got reworked too and were significantly delayed (like Nightmare on Elm Street).