I saw this short in the early 2000s on Cartoon Network Netherlands. They had this late-night special where they showed all these different shorts. I wasn't supposed to be up to watch it, but the promo made it look way too cool and mysterious, so I had to do it anyway.
The short that really stuck with me because it was kind of disturbing was a stop-motion short (might have used rudimentary clay puppets) where a guy meets up with this man-sized mantis thing, and I think at first they're friendly but then a fight breaks out. The mantis knocks the guy out and then tries to roast him over a fire, but the guy escapes, knocks the mantis out with a bottle and then does the same to him.
I think there might have been an on-screen title that I couldn't read or even figure out what language it was--I would've been able to read it if it was Dutch, English or German, and I would probably have recognized the language if it was French, Spanish or Italian. I'm tempted to say it came from Eastern Europe, but I can't say that for certain. I think in the opening scene, the guy is outside, traveling to where the mantis guy lives, but it looked like he was running in place while the background moved around him. There was also this kinda creepy high-pitched synth music playing.
I wish I could remember more about the special and the other shorts. I think it might have aired twice and I fell asleep pretty early on both times.
If it helps any, Ladislas Starevitch was a polish-Russian filmmaker in the 1900s who used a weird stop-motion and taxidermy combination to make his films. He would use dead insects and rewire them to create films. Many of his films included insects as the protagonist!
Although it doesn't fit the rudimentary clay puppet aesthetic you mentioned, it would probably be disturbing to a kid.
Hi all, sorry it took me a long time to reply, I don't check this forum super often.
If it helps any, Ladislas Starevitch was a polish-Russian filmmaker in the 1900s who used a weird stop-motion and taxidermy combination to make his films. He would use dead insects and rewire them to create films. Many of his films included insects as the protagonist! Although it doesn't fit the rudimentary clay puppet aesthetic you mentioned, it would probably be disturbing to a kid.
Thanks for the suggestion. I've skimmed through a bunch of his stuff on YouTube and haven't found it in there so far, but I'll keep looking. I do notice that almost all of it is in black and white, and the short I'm looking for was definitely in full color.
Do you remember anything else about the special?
Do you have any information on the special? sounds like a good place to start.
It definitely would have aired no earlier than 1999 and no later than 2001, since that's when this specific version of Cartoon Network was available to me. I think it aired around 11 PM. The promo featured a night vision goggles effect with the camera scanning across this building; I think the idea was that it was a mysterious vault where all these cartoons were being kept. As I said before, I think it aired twice, because I have a vague memory of wanting to stay up to see the other shorts the second time and failing, so both times I pretty much just got to see the mantis one. It would've been one of the first ones in the special.
The only other short I can remember anything about is an even vaguer memory, because I woke up during it and then turned the TV off since it didn't look too interesting and I didn't want to get caught watching TV in the middle of the night. It was like a storybook sort of thing with still images being shown over narration by a soothing male voice, I think British. I think the images were all laid over this old wall or something, it gave it kind of an Ancient Egyptian vibe. Sadly that's all I remember--I didn't understand English nearly as well at the time and there were no subtitles, so it was hard to follow.
I've tried to find the title of the special by using the Wayback Machine, but not a lot of the old cartoonnetwork.nl site remains, so I only found a few broadcast schedules. One of them listed something called "CulToons", but I think that's a different program showing old Hanna-Barbera cartoons. I found a promo of that a little while ago, but unfortunately a lot of the old CN continuity stuff people upload on YouTube and Dailymotion gets taken down.
Definitely used to air on [adult swim]. Adult Swim started on 2001, and airs on late night.
If you mean that's where I saw it, that's not possible. Adult Swim didn't exist in the Netherlands (I was gonna say it never existed, but apparently it did for a little while in the early 2010s. Learn something new every day.)
Definitely used to air on [adult swim]. Adult Swim started on 2001, and airs on late night.
If you mean that's where I saw it, that's not possible. Adult Swim didn't exist in the Netherlands (I was gonna say it never existed, but apparently it did for a little while in the early 2010s. Learn something new every day.)
Not in there as far as I can tell. But that wiki seems really US-focused, and we didn't have the same blocks over here. Besides, I'm positive this wasn't a regular block, it was a special event.
Big ol' bump. I still have not found this short or any new leads about it.
I wonder if it could be related to the ToonHeads "A Night of Independent Animation" special? I know ToonHeads aired on CN Netherlands at the time, though I was never allowed to watch it because of its late timeslot--which, again, I recall to be 11 PM.
The special I saw seems like it had a similar setup to the ToonHeads special, so perhaps this could have been a Dutch airing of the same thing, or a separate special inspired by the same format. Sadly, none of the shorts that have been found from the ToonHeads special ring any bells for me.
Another detail I recall that could support this idea is that neither of the shorts I remember had any subtitles. I don't think the "Mantis" short had any dialogue at all, just gesturing and maybe grunting. The other short, the one with the still images on the rocky wall, was definitely in English without subtitles. That makes me fairly certain this special was not something cooked up by CN Netherlands independently, even if they made a special promo for it--after all, if you went through all that trouble to produce an original special and promote it a lot, why would you not have subtitles made for the shorts where necessary?
Obviously it is not a ToonHeads thing as we can now conclude. However, while looking for stuff I stumbled upon "AKA Cartoon Network" and its segment "Cult Toons", which is also a thing I saw once on late-night CN back in the day and then could never find again. As it turns out, it was made in the UK, so perhaps that's why a lot of people don't know about it since they think of CN as being a purely American thing.
This makes me think that maybe the mysterious special also originated in the UK, and it might be somewhat easier to find clues searching for something from the UK than from the Netherlands. Unfortunately, I haven't found anything conclusive yet. The Wayback Machine unfortunately doesn't have old UK CN schedules archived because of how the site was coded, and simply looking through uploads of old UK CN content hasn't brought me anything. But I'm certain it's out there...
I managed to locate archives of a Dutch newspaper from the relevant time period and scoured all of their TV listings, knowing that it HAD to be in here somehow, and that if I only had a title, I'd have a lead. I go through each day, each week, each month; every time, only seeing the same late-night listings for Cartoon Cartoons. My brain slowly began to power down, and the words and timeslots began to turn into noise.
Then, there it was. The one exception. June 29, 2001.
... The schedule just STOPS right before 11 PM, the time I'm certain the special aired. I haven't found any other archives of newspapers or TV guides that cover this period.