Post by fleischerfan96 on Dec 15, 2019 0:56:21 GMT
Hey everyone, I had seen the "Crack Master" short long before BlameitonJorge posted about it earlier today, and I knew that it was an important piece of Lost Media to the community, but I had no idea about it's mysterious origins. Any theories as to why its creation is so shrouded in mystery? Personally, my gut always goes to the most unexciting reason, such as some sort of weird copyright stipulation, but now that I think about it, it just makes no sense. Why would such an obscure animation studio have that sort of copyright control over their work? My most exciting theory has to do with the interview from the cartoon's voice actor in the BIOJ vid. She said that a mysterious woman in white with a hippie name was watching her during the recording. Perhaps the video was the product of one of those bizarre New Age cults that was popping up in the seventies? They were very prevalent in that era, particularly in California, where the short was made. The short also has a sort of weird New Age Philosophy vibe to it ("he destroyed himself trying to be mean") and embraces a sort of surrealism very popular to those types of groups. Perhaps this cult formed an animation studio to make indoctrination videos for kids, started making short clips to sell to Sesame Street to test the waters, and then when Sesame Street found out about this, got embarrassed an immediately tried to stamp out any memory of this clip or its origins? I know that's a bizarre theory that makes no sense, but it's the best I got. What do you guys think? Here's the vid in case you guys haven't seen it yet:
Post by theCarbonFreeze on Dec 17, 2019 2:10:38 GMT
My new theory is that one or both of the leaked source tapes was released by an employee who had no right to do so. Perhaps a sesame street vault curator or custodian. They made John sign the contract and delivered the clips in secret to cover their ass legally. Certainly Daicate's copy was leaked by a sympathetic individual who happened to have access to the vault and fears repercussions should the copyright owners become aware of what they did.
The details about the Armond clip being delivered on Suday without a stamp are new to me. So is the mysterious fax. Is there any corroborating evidence for that?
I still cant believe Dorothy Moskowitz was the narrator. The United States of America is my all time favorite album and its just such a huge coincidence! Im glad that was mentioned in the video.
My new theory is that one or both of the leaked source tapes was done so by an employee who had no right to do so. Perhaps a sesame street vault curator or custodian. They made John sign the contract and/delivered the clips in secret to cover their ass legally.
The details about the Armond clip being delivered on Suday without a stamp are new to me. So is the mysterious fax. Is there any corroborating evidence for that?
I still cant believe Dorothy Moskowitz was the narrator. The United States of America is my all time favorite album and its just such a huge coincidence! Im glad that was mentioned in the video.
That makes sense, I'm just confused as to why this needed to be all so secretive in the first place. Perhaps Sesame Street is this tight lipped about all its old material, but this just stands out to us because it was so sought after?
Post by theCarbonFreeze on Dec 17, 2019 5:44:14 GMT
Normally Id guess that no one there cares or remembers anything about it, not who animated it or why it stopped playing. The latter was probably some random executives decision for no particular reason and no one else had the authority to conviction to defend the idea of replaying a short which to them was one of hundreds.
Even Dorothy Moskowitz knew nothing about the who, what and why. Probably it was some young animators first project, or a struggling animation studio cranking out a simple project for a quick payday.
Not trying to be dismissive of the shorts mystique. Its definitely strange how the rediscovery played out, and by its own merits outside being lost I find Cracks to be a charming cartoon. I could listen to Dorothy Moskowitz read the phone book.
I don't know about the origins of the short, but I think I know why Sesame Street didn't replay it. Aside from the "Crack" drug reference, the short itself really isn't spectacular (to me anyway) without the mystery behind it. #1 The short is not colorful, it's mostly just a beige wall with several cracks in it, so kids wouldn't be interested in it when it plays. #2 The narration and the "singing" is just weird. As stated by the narrator herself in the video, she was given nothing to work with when recording the voiceover. It has a weird rushed talking-singing thing to it. It's not bad nor good, it's just odd. #3 Is that the cartoon is too short and introduced characters and just ends. Like, we meet crack camel, crack hen and crack monkey and the short ends like 20 seconds later. Crackmaster himself appears for like 7 seconds before killing himself. So in short, Sesame Street probably didn't play it again in their episodes because it was a rushed, drab, mysterious cartoon.
I do realize the importance that the search and discovery has on the Lost Media community, and the mystery that gets everyone interested in it. However if you take out the mystery behind it, the short is nothing much and would have been easily forgotten. I still would like to know who made this and why since this is a very intriguing mystery.
I don't know about the origins of the short, but I think I know why Sesame Street didn't replay it. Aside from the "Crack" drug reference, the short itself really isn't spectacular (to me anyway) without the mystery behind it. #1 The short is not colorful, it's mostly just a beige wall with several cracks in it, so kids wouldn't be interested in it when it plays. #2 The narration and the "singing" is just weird. As stated by the narrator herself in the video, she was given nothing to work with when recording the voiceover. It has a weird rushed talking-singing thing to it. It's not bad nor good, it's just odd. #3 Is that the cartoon is too short and introduced characters and just ends. Like, we meet crack camel, crack hen and crack monkey and the short ends like 20 seconds later. Crackmaster himself appears for like 7 seconds before killing himself. So in short, Sesame Street probably didn't play it again in their episodes because it was a rushed, drab, mysterious cartoon.
I do realize the importance that the search and discovery has on the Lost Media community, and the mystery that gets everyone interested in it. However if you take out the mystery behind it, the short is nothing much and would have been easily forgotten. I still would like to know who made this and why since this is a very intriguing mystery.
I agree that the short is nothing spectacular (and if we're being honest, barely any of these "creepy Lost Media things from our childhood" ever really are). But it's not like they didn't replay it, they replayed it for probably the standard amount of time they replay a lot of their animated shorts. Honestly, people keep bringing up the "crack" reference and I really don't buy it. Maybe it's because I didn't grow up in the seventies and eighties, so the significance of the crack epidemic is probably lost on me, but it just seems like a weird reason to completely disown the short. And that's the weird bit, not that they stopped airing it, but that everyone seemed so tight-lipped about it, and that its creation is so mysterious in the first place. Like, when Armond starts asking for the short, is the "crack" reference really reason enough for a mysterious person to send him the clip on condition that he never show it to anyone? That's why I think there's something more to it, like the origins of the cartoon are somewhat shady, CTW didn't realize it at the time, but does now, and so is embarrassed about it. Again, maybe Sesame Street is like this with all they're old shorts, and we're just noticing this because we all wanted to see it, but I don't understand why everyone at CTW was so adamant about it.
From reading other threads on here it seems to me that just the general culture of archivists is not to give anything out. So it might not really be anything specific to this short that makes people so secretive about it. I would say, it wasn't really considered good enough to keep playing, and then it was just lost to the archives, and then it's just the quirks of archivists later on that didn't want anything coming out about it.