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Article Deletion Thread Jun 2, 2018 1:22:18 GMT

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Post by LetDown on Jun 2, 2018 1:22:18 GMT

This is a thread I wanted to create for quite awhile, and now I think it's time that we have one. This wiki has many great contributes and articles, but it's obvious some don't miss the mark and at times are quality reminiscent of the Lost Media Archive. I feel a thread to discuss articles we feel should be removed (or why they should stay) would be a good thing. I'll start:

www.lostmediawiki.com/Columbia_Pictures_Television_%22Cokeburst%22_(and_other_closing_logos_from_various_companies;_1970s-2000s) - This one has always been bizarre. It's a holdout from the old Wiki days, and the mess of it shows. The title of the article isn't even covered in the article and the logos don't have much consistency between each other and it drags on in a way that becomes confusing. This is one where it might be possible to spread out the article into different ones to salvage it, but it can't stay as it is.

www.lostmediawiki.com/TV_bumpers_and_continuity_(lost_advertising_material;_1972-2003) - This one is like the Cokeburst article but with little effort put into it. It doesn't even have a proper title, really no sources outside the videos themselves, very little info on the topics and no consistency. I really have no idea why this one still exists, it should be fully removed.

www.lostmediawiki.com/Nickelodeon_Japan_(lost_content_of_cancelled_TV_channel;_1998-2009) - By far my least favorite article on the wiki. This is the last holdout from when dubs were allowed, and I have absolutely no idea why it's still allowed. It's one of the worst written and nothing besides the channel shutdown even qualifies for a article. I've thought about revamping it completely just to focus on the shutdown, but I don't know if that's allowed.

www.lostmediawiki.com/Sonic_Mania_(cancelled_3DS_port_of_platformer;_2017) - Not bad but the community has decided that it was never worked on and doesn't count for a article

www.lostmediawiki.com/VeggieTales_%22God_Made_You_Special:_Live!%22_-_Bob_the_Tomato%27s_Dialogue_by_John_Trauscht_(lost_audio_from_live_show;_2008) - Way too short

Bonus: www.lostmediawiki.com/Milkcan.com_(partially_found_website;_1999) - I have no idea what's going on here

Last Edit: Jun 2, 2018 1:24:10 GMT by LetDown

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Article Deletion Thread Jun 11, 2018 8:04:14 GMT

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Post by Lucy on Jun 11, 2018 8:04:14 GMT

Jun 2, 2018 1:22:18 GMT LetDown said:

This is a thread I wanted to create for quite awhile, and now I think it's time that we have one. This wiki has many great contributes and articles, but it's obvious some don't miss the mark and at times are quality reminiscent of the Lost Media Archive. I feel a thread to discuss articles we feel should be removed (or why they should stay) would be a good thing. I'll start:

www.lostmediawiki.com/Columbia_Pictures_Television_%22Cokeburst%22_(and_other_closing_logos_from_various_companies;_1970s-2000s) - This one has always been bizarre. It's a holdout from the old Wiki days, and the mess of it shows. The title of the article isn't even covered in the article and the logos don't have much consistency between each other and it drags on in a way that becomes confusing. This is one where it might be possible to spread out the article into different ones to salvage it, but it can't stay as it is.

www.lostmediawiki.com/TV_bumpers_and_continuity_(lost_advertising_material;_1972-2003) - This one is like the Cokeburst article but with little effort put into it. It doesn't even have a proper title, really no sources outside the videos themselves, very little info on the topics and no consistency. I really have no idea why this one still exists, it should be fully removed.

www.lostmediawiki.com/Nickelodeon_Japan_(lost_content_of_cancelled_TV_channel;_1998-2009) - By far my least favorite article on the wiki. This is the last holdout from when dubs were allowed, and I have absolutely no idea why it's still allowed. It's one of the worst written and nothing besides the channel shutdown even qualifies for a article. I've thought about revamping it completely just to focus on the shutdown, but I don't know if that's allowed.

www.lostmediawiki.com/Sonic_Mania_(cancelled_3DS_port_of_platformer;_2017) - Not bad but the community has decided that it was never worked on and doesn't count for a article

www.lostmediawiki.com/VeggieTales_%22God_Made_You_Special:_Live!%22_-_Bob_the_Tomato%27s_Dialogue_by_John_Trauscht_(lost_audio_from_live_show;_2008) - Way too short

Bonus: www.lostmediawiki.com/Milkcan.com_(partially_found_website;_1999) - I have no idea what's going on here

1 - Cokeburst: Yeah I don't like this article much either... staff have talked about it before but we didn't come to a conclusion yet. It's definitely a colossal mess with no clear focus, but my personal fear is that since it's such a popular article, if it's deleted people may try to write 500 articles for every single logo on that page. Maybe we can edit it so it's just about the infamous cokeburst logo... or maybe just delete it... either way it's on the backburner at the moment while we come to a decision.
2 - TV Bumpers and Continuity: This one's just flat out trash and unlike Cokeburst nobody cares about it - as evident from the fact that it's had a "to be added later" section left unedited since it was first written years ago. Deleted.
3 - Nick Japan: Okay I'm glad I'm not alone in not having a clue what this article is about... back since the wikia days I never understood but everyone else seemed to get it right away, so I assumed I was the odd one out. I don't like it but I think there are a couple staff members that do, so I'm hesitant to delete it... I'd personally be fine with it being rewritten to focus only on the shutdown footage (but maybe with a small section just giving a basic overview of the type of stuff they aired), but since that's a pretty drastic change to a popular page, I'll have to discuss it with the others first before giving the go-ahead
4 - Sonic Mania: Deleted
5 - VeggieTales: Deleted
6 - Milkcan: I THINK this isn't actually lost and is backed up by the Wayback machine, but I'm not certain. I've tagged it as needing work, if it turns out that it isn't lost I'll delete it.

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Article Deletion Thread Jun 12, 2018 13:42:43 GMT

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Post by Happy Brian on Jun 12, 2018 13:42:43 GMT

Here are some of my candidates for deletion only if the article is of poor quality, has no expansion for years or doesn't clarify what is lost:

*lostmediawiki.com/The_Interview_-_original_death_scene_(lost_scene_from_comedy_film;_2014): This article just feels unfinished, as evidenced by the fact that it says "This article is a placeholder to be improved and has more details added." at the end of the article. The article's layout and organization is also messy as well since the article was an import from the old Wikia and has no references. If the article is deleted, maybe it can have a place in the "Deleted Articles (need re-writing)" section of the Article requests page.

*lostmediawiki.com/ToddWorld_(partially_found_British_dub_of_children%27s_series;_2006-2011): I just don't get what is relevant about this dub, since it was British dub of an American TV show that has no differences between the two versions aside from having different voice actors. Also, the article is only one paragraph long.

*lostmediawiki.com/Superman_Lives_(cancelled_Tim_Burton_film;_1998): The film's history in development is an interesting one, but that's all the article is about and doesn't say what in particular is lost (like any of the scripts detailed in the article or any footage shot for the film). Maybe it can be re-written to just talk about the scripts and maybe a shorter and briefer history of the film's production, that is if any of the script treatments are actually lost.

*lostmediawiki.com/Spider-Man_(cancelled_James_Cameron_movie;_1994): Like Superman Lives, I have no idea what is actually lost here since James Cameron's script is linked at the bottom of the article and the article isn't clear on whether something was actually produced for the film.

*lostmediawiki.com/The_Filthy_Five_(lost_sexploitation_film;_1968): The article's organization is a mess and has been tagged for its lack of clarity and references for about a year now. I do have faith in someone else re-writing this article from scratch, however.

Last Edit: Jun 12, 2018 13:48:10 GMT by Happy Brian

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Article Deletion Thread Jun 20, 2018 0:18:52 GMT

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Post by senshisun on Jun 20, 2018 0:18:52 GMT

Jun 2, 2018 1:22:18 GMT LetDown said:

This is a thread I wanted to create for quite awhile, and now I think it's time that we have one. This wiki has many great contributes and articles, but it's obvious some don't miss the mark and at times are quality reminiscent of the Lost Media Archive. I feel a thread to discuss articles we feel should be removed (or why they should stay) would be a good thing. I'll start:

www.lostmediawiki.com/Columbia_Pictures_Television_%22Cokeburst%22_(and_other_closing_logos_from_various_companies;_1970s-2000s) - This one has always been bizarre. It's a holdout from the old Wiki days, and the mess of it shows. The title of the article isn't even covered in the article and the logos don't have much consistency between each other and it drags on in a way that becomes confusing. This is one where it might be possible to spread out the article into different ones to salvage it, but it can't stay as it is.

www.lostmediawiki.com/TV_bumpers_and_continuity_(lost_advertising_material;_1972-2003) - This one is like the Cokeburst article but with little effort put into it. It doesn't even have a proper title, really no sources outside the videos themselves, very little info on the topics and no consistency. I really have no idea why this one still exists, it should be fully removed.

www.lostmediawiki.com/Nickelodeon_Japan_(lost_content_of_cancelled_TV_channel;_1998-2009) - By far my least favorite article on the wiki. This is the last holdout from when dubs were allowed, and I have absolutely no idea why it's still allowed. It's one of the worst written and nothing besides the channel shutdown even qualifies for a article. I've thought about revamping it completely just to focus on the shutdown, but I don't know if that's allowed.

www.lostmediawiki.com/Sonic_Mania_(cancelled_3DS_port_of_platformer;_2017) - Not bad but the community has decided that it was never worked on and doesn't count for a article

www.lostmediawiki.com/VeggieTales_%22God_Made_You_Special:_Live!%22_-_Bob_the_Tomato%27s_Dialogue_by_John_Trauscht_(lost_audio_from_live_show;_2008) - Way too short

Bonus: www.lostmediawiki.com/Milkcan.com_(partially_found_website;_1999) - I have no idea what's going on here

Cokeburst: Yes, this needs a split into various different articles. The bit about Cokeburst itself mentions that it might have been on shows, but also that it never existed. It's trying to be a collection of rare or lost closing logos, which it is, but it's not well kept.

Nick Japan: I'm honestly not sure what's lost here. It talks about all the things that aired on a defunct network, then claims to show footage of the shutdown itself. The shutdown might be lost media, but I'd want to do more research on how network shutdowns work (and what remains) before even thinking about doing something to it. Defunct networks are not lost media.

Milkcan: Looks like it's a tie-in website to promote a video game, and not all the pages were archived. It's on the wiki because of the fact that not all the pages are archived.

The Interview Death Scene: This might actually be interesting to have, as the topic made headlines, but the fact that nobody's edited it for a while makes it questionable. I might go over it if I have time. I'm a bit confused by the fact that they appear to have been toning down the scene before they were hacked or sent threats by North Korea.

James Cameron's Spider-Man: I think this is about the various versions of the script or treatment that are missing. It violates the citations rule right now, as there aren't any sources.

Submitting for deletion:

lostmediawiki.com/Macpaint_3D_(lost_paint_program;_1990s) It only has two sentences discussing the lost software. The rest of it is about Apple in general. It has no sources. There is definitely room for a rewrite focusing on the actual program.

lostmediawiki.com/Caillou_(lost_British_dub_of_Canadian_animated_series;_2007-2012) If we're removing Toddworld, this needs to go too. There might actually be a piece of content available from the dub, but it's UK only.

lostmediawiki.com/Miss_Spider%27s_Sunny_Patch_Friends_(partially_found_British_dub_of_CGI-animated_series;_2004-2008) Same as with Caillou, a UK dub for an American / Canadian show.

lostmediawiki.com/La_plan%C3%A8te_de_Donkey_Kong/DKTV_(partially_found_French_programming_block;_1996-2001) Not sure if we consider programming blocks or networks to be media in and of themselves.

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Post by LetDown on Jun 2, 2018 1:22:18 GMT

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