READ THE DAMN FORUM AND ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS GAVIN!You don't have long to prove your legitimacy
I'm doing my best to answer all of the questions I've been asked in the past day or so; however if people like you are just going to be rude and instantly call me a fake (despite providing you with plenty of answers to the unanswered questions of ADWSS), I guess I'll be off.
READ THE DAMN FORUM AND ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS GAVIN!You don't have long to prove your legitimacy
I'm doing my best to answer all of the questions I've been asked in the past day or so; however if people like you are just going to be rude and instantly call me a fake (despite providing you with plenty of answers to the unanswered questions of ADWSS), I guess I'll be off.
I'm about 85% sure that this guy is a fake. However, we need all of the info we can get. I'm not saying we should just unconditionally trust this guy, but we should always be welcoming to new information (unless it's really obvious that it's a fake).
Gavin, I do not intend any disrespect with this post. If you are indeed a lawyer, then by all means share with us. But there isn't much of a way to tell when someone's trolling based on a couple of posts alone.
READ THE DAMN FORUM AND ANSWER OUR QUESTIONS GAVIN!You don't have long to prove your legitimacy
I'm doing my best to answer all of the questions I've been asked in the past day or so; however if people like you are just going to be rude and instantly call me a fake (despite providing you with plenty of answers to the unanswered questions of ADWSS), I guess I'll be off.
Are you able to provide current contact info so we can get in touch with Lorenzo? If not are you able to ask him on our behalf to leak the movie, or provide some sort of acknowledgement of our search?
I don't think anyone intentionally means to scare you off. We've just been on edge for a LONG time after our old discussion area was savagely attacked by trolls and fakers. Not to mention there have been 5 or 6 hoaxes of people claiming to have clips of the DVD or the DVD itself, and after a while we just have to question every little detail.
But thanks for answering my question. It would be great if eventually you were able to supply some kind of visuals from the movie to go along with the vectors we had.
@marisam Still not sure what I think of those. I checked out nickcentral.com and yeah it seems super legit. Maybe ThatsJustLo knew someone who works at Viacom and he gave him his login information.
and hastingsfag, yeah we have plenty of other leads to contact Lorenzo- it's pretty much pick your method and go for it.
(Warning: Long post ahead questioning "Gavin" feel free to read along though,it brings up valid points);
Gavin,
You said he announced the cancellation of the film in March 2012.Its pretty much fact shown by multiple sources that the film was released on November 22nd 2011 and was available for a short amount of time on Amazon (like being sold,I went and contacted Amazon about that out of curiosity and that's what I was told.) .Why would a movie that wasn't even made be even be put up on Amazon with a cover,a complete barcode and everything MONTHS before Mr.Holley "announced the cancellation"? I can't think of a valid reason why.Then Why wasn't the first listing taken down than too along with the "second one." commonly if there is a link for a preorder,it will eventually become a link for the actual product.Therefore why would it be put on Amazon twice?Also why can't you provide the other cover?
Not to mention during my scrounging (I regret not keeping the link) a website was mentioning "new movie releases this week" in November of 2011 which included ADWSS. Along with the fact we have had tiny and pieces of proof everywhere that it was indeed animated,If it's live action,why not give us the names of any of the actors?Giving us those names would be 100% legal as far as I can tell,If the actor for Seth wanted to remain unnamed that's fine, as the actor for spongebob would most likely be an adult of legal age.
Why would you even mention being not able to give his info when it's clear we have a shitton of info already,it's unnecessary detail!
If you are a Lawyer,if I ask about it you by law are required to give me your bar number and what state you are in so please provide it to us.As your job you are also legally obligated to inform us of your Firm when asked.Lorenzo allegedly stated you are allowed to tell third parties you are his lawyer,but how do we know who you are? This is sketchy and making me question if you are or ever were a real lawyer.If you were a real lawyer I'm pretty sure you'd cooperate.
It is Illegal to Impersonate a lawyer ,as it is considered a form of fraud and can have severe consequences.If you were actually his lawyer,why the fuck would you think coming to us from out of nowhere about an illegal movie operation would be a good idea for the sake of your job you went to school for quite a while in order to perform?
If you were really connected to Lorenzo,how is it so coincidental you just happen to find us here,and why would you simply call him Lorenzo?It is a respectful practice of lawyers to call clients by last names.If you aren't that's fine though,it's just rude and uncommon.I have legitimate legal claims to back my statements up as I just called my uncle who is indeed a lawyer about this.You should probably get explaining.But if you can't,you should just admit you lied to us,run off and never come back ~Doom
Okay, I am a fake. You got me.
I did this all in good fun and did not realize how seriously you all took this. I also had no idea about the impersonation thing you told me.
I am sincerely sorry. I thought you all would get a kick out of this. I understand and respect that the search for ADWSS is a big passion of yours. However, I don't want to get into trouble for a joke that was taken seriously.
Props to you, though, for debunking the whole thing. That was actually very well put together, and you obviously did do your homework with this one. Sorry if I wasted your time.
I see you all are really devoted to this. Keep going at it, guys. I know you're gonna find the answer one day.
(Warning: Long post ahead questioning "Gavin" feel free to read along though,it brings up valid points);
Gavin,
You said he announced the cancellation of the film in March 2012.Its pretty much fact shown by multiple sources that the film was released on November 22nd 2011 and was available for a short amount of time on Amazon (like being sold,I went and contacted Amazon about that out of curiosity and that's what I was told.) .Why would a movie that wasn't even made be even be put up on Amazon with a cover,a complete barcode and everything MONTHS before Mr.Holley "announced the cancellation"? I can't think of a valid reason why.Then Why wasn't the first listing taken down than too along with the "second one." commonly if there is a link for a preorder,it will eventually become a link for the actual product.Therefore why would it be put on Amazon twice?Also why can't you provide the other cover?
Not to mention during my scrounging (I regret not keeping the link) a website was mentioning "new movie releases this week" in November of 2011 which included ADWSS. Along with the fact we have had tiny and pieces of proof everywhere that it was indeed animated,If it's live action,why not give us the names of any of the actors?Giving us those names would be 100% legal as far as I can tell,If the actor for Seth wanted to remain unnamed that's fine, as the actor for spongebob would most likely be an adult of legal age.
Why would you even mention being not able to give his info when it's clear we have a shitton of info already,it's unnecessary detail!
If you are a Lawyer,if I ask about it you by law are required to give me your bar number and what state you are in so please provide it to us.As your job you are also legally obligated to inform us of your Firm when asked.Lorenzo allegedly stated you are allowed to tell third parties you are his lawyer,but how do we know who you are? This is sketchy and making me question if you are or ever were a real lawyer.If you were a real lawyer I'm pretty sure you'd cooperate.
It is Illegal to Impersonate a lawyer ,as it is considered a form of fraud and can have severe consequences.If you were actually his lawyer,why the fuck would you think coming to us from out of nowhere about an illegal movie operation would be a good idea for the sake of your job you went to school for quite a while in order to perform?
If you were really connected to Lorenzo,how is it so coincidental you just happen to find us here,and why would you simply call him Lorenzo?It is a respectful practice of lawyers to call clients by last names.If you aren't that's fine though,it's just rude and uncommon.I have legitimate legal claims to back my statements up as I just called my uncle who is indeed a lawyer about this.You should probably get explaining.But if you can't,you should just admit you lied to us,run off and never come back ~Doom
Okay, I am a fake. You got me.
I did this all in good fun and did not realize how seriously you all took this. I also had no idea about the impersonation thing you told me.
I am sincerely sorry. I thought you all would get a kick out of this. I understand and respect that the search for ADWSS is a big passion of yours. However, I don't want to get into trouble for a joke that was taken seriously.
Props to you, though, for debunking the whole thing. That was actually very well put together, and you obviously did do your homework with this one. Sorry if I wasted your time.
I see you all are really devoted to this. Keep going at it, guys. I know you're gonna find the answer one day.
Sorry if I caused too much trouble.
-(not) Gavin H.
That joke was in very poor taste. I appreciate you coming forward, though. Thanks for at least being honest, just please don't do anything like this again.
(Warning: Long post ahead questioning "Gavin" feel free to read along though,it brings up valid points);
Gavin,
You said he announced the cancellation of the film in March 2012.Its pretty much fact shown by multiple sources that the film was released on November 22nd 2011 and was available for a short amount of time on Amazon (like being sold,I went and contacted Amazon about that out of curiosity and that's what I was told.) .Why would a movie that wasn't even made be even be put up on Amazon with a cover,a complete barcode and everything MONTHS before Mr.Holley "announced the cancellation"? I can't think of a valid reason why.Then Why wasn't the first listing taken down than too along with the "second one." commonly if there is a link for a preorder,it will eventually become a link for the actual product.Therefore why would it be put on Amazon twice?Also why can't you provide the other cover?
Not to mention during my scrounging (I regret not keeping the link) a website was mentioning "new movie releases this week" in November of 2011 which included ADWSS. Along with the fact we have had tiny and pieces of proof everywhere that it was indeed animated,If it's live action,why not give us the names of any of the actors?Giving us those names would be 100% legal as far as I can tell,If the actor for Seth wanted to remain unnamed that's fine, as the actor for spongebob would most likely be an adult of legal age.
Why would you even mention being not able to give his info when it's clear we have a shitton of info already,it's unnecessary detail!
If you are a Lawyer,if I ask about it you by law are required to give me your bar number and what state you are in so please provide it to us.As your job you are also legally obligated to inform us of your Firm when asked.Lorenzo allegedly stated you are allowed to tell third parties you are his lawyer,but how do we know who you are? This is sketchy and making me question if you are or ever were a real lawyer.If you were a real lawyer I'm pretty sure you'd cooperate.
It is Illegal to Impersonate a lawyer ,as it is considered a form of fraud and can have severe consequences.If you were actually his lawyer,why the fuck would you think coming to us from out of nowhere about an illegal movie operation would be a good idea for the sake of your job you went to school for quite a while in order to perform?
If you were really connected to Lorenzo,how is it so coincidental you just happen to find us here,and why would you simply call him Lorenzo?It is a respectful practice of lawyers to call clients by last names.If you aren't that's fine though,it's just rude and uncommon.I have legitimate legal claims to back my statements up as I just called my uncle who is indeed a lawyer about this.You should probably get explaining.But if you can't,you should just admit you lied to us,run off and never come back ~Doom
Okay, I am a fake. You got me.
I did this all in good fun and did not realize how seriously you all took this. I also had no idea about the impersonation thing you told me.
I am sincerely sorry. I thought you all would get a kick out of this. I understand and respect that the search for ADWSS is a big passion of yours. However, I don't want to get into trouble for a joke that was taken seriously.
Props to you, though, for debunking the whole thing. That was actually very well put together, and you obviously did do your homework with this one. Sorry if I wasted your time.
I see you all are really devoted to this. Keep going at it, guys. I know you're gonna find the answer one day.
I'm just throwing this out there, do you think a troll would apologize so legitimately, or do you think his was just Gavin getting out of a hostile environment.
I mean honestly, I don't think we could really tell either way just from the short amount of time he was on here.
Plus, don't you think a troll would have tried to mess with us for a while longer??
Post by Moodiecitymadman on Mar 1, 2016 0:18:25 GMT
LSuperSonicQ I sent him a message telling him I was convinced on who he was and if he could answer my questions, and he hasn't responded as of 7:18 PM EST.
I'm just throwing this out there, do you think a troll would apologize so legitimately, or do you think his was just Gavin getting out of a hostile environment.
I mean honestly, I don't think we could really tell either way just from the short amount of time he was on here.
Plus, don't you think a troll would have tried to mess with us for a while longer??
Nah, man. I'm a troll (to an extent). I am sincerely sorry, though. The ADWSS scene doesn't really deserve to be trolled. It was in very bad taste as pmagnet said.
I though I had a pretty good joke going, but when obscuredoom threatened legal action, I decided to back away before things got nasty.
Doom, I'm sorry man. I see now that you guys will do anything to uncover that film, and I respect that. I hope it hasn't affected anything too badly.
I forgive you.However I didn't threaten legal action,I just said it could be done :3 honestly I spent time writing it in a way that showed loops and questioned your claims in a way beyond lying.I apologize for scaring you "Gavin"
Post by Moodiecitymadman on Mar 1, 2016 0:24:55 GMT
gavinh your apology is greatly appreciated as we never get a troll to apologize for what he or she has done. Do you think you can do something for us in return?
There's a user named Babylon josh who comes on here every now and then to troll us. He creates different sock accounts and continues to bother us. Do you think you could screw with him. He's currently operating under the name johnhall777.