ObscurusDoom can you change your pic, the squidward scares me
and damn you guys just disproven a fake lawyer XD,
and it's possible thatsjustlo tumblr is just another dude with the same last name or he lied about being an asset manager at nick but had the genuine assets
@marisam , I have to agree with you that things don't line up completely with ThatsJustLo. I read through more of his tumblr and it REALLY sounds like he was in high school at the time. The only thing that confuses me was the location of those vector files, like how people were saying they were on a secure Nick server that someone would have had to try really hard to fake.
gavinh I have a question for you sir. If you're a lawyer- with probably better things to do- why bother helping a random website like this try and get their hands on a borderline illegal movie.
I don't know how anyone would of found out they were on secure Nick servers that sounds like wild speculation. He talked about how someone leaked the files too and that's why he couldn't send them anymore and we blaimed saquash or whatever that guys name was but no one has found where he apprently leaked the files to anywhere online so it seems weird that if they got leaked the only one who would of found out about the leak was thatjustlo and if saquash wanted everyone to see them he would of just straight up posted it on the wiki.
charbajeena I agree with Marisam. Thatsjustlo knew more than any other supposed "source" had before him, and when the files got leaked by one of Babylon Josh's sock puppets, he left the wiki and didn't come back. Why would he leave if he was nothing more than a troll??
Post by Moodiecitymadman on Feb 29, 2016 16:51:02 GMT
This is a post from one of Babylon josh's accounts
I am sorry for yelling at you. I am not Babylon Josh, I actually am a hater of him. I have some information for you. I was a accountant for regal filmsfrom 2008-late 2009, and Lorenzo Holley was developing a movie called "Elvis pressily: a star". It was developed from June 5, 2008 to March 9, 2009. It was developed by "jolt films", a company based in Auckland, NZ and "retro Corp.", a company based in Salisbury, MD. It was 45% done, when some cast died, canceling the film. I can give a picture of the movie.
This is the one from gavinh
Hello, everyone. I'm Gavin. Depending on who's reading this, you might either be shocked or in disbelief. But the fact will remain the same.
I was Lorenzo's lawyer back in mid 2011-late 2012. The Steve Jobs and Justin Bieber documentaries don't actually show images of the celebrities because Lorenzo wasn't legally allowed to use their likeness in the film. It was I who pointed this out to him and got him out of potential legal trouble. I was working for him during the development of ADWSS, and I have a lot of information to share.
Lorenzo officially announced the cancellation of the film in March 2012 (it may have been early April, but I don't remember), and after that I deleted all files of potentially infringing material included in the film (my job was a lawyer, not an editor, so I did not have all of the material), but I am currently trying to recover the files so I can share them with everybody.The film was around 65% complete, and I had around 20% of that 65% (the reason only part of the film was infringing is because it was classified as a parody; therefore it fell under fair use).
I have some information here that I think you all will find interesting:
-Viacom did not take legal action due to the whole "vector" thing. Viacom is really sensitive about copyright infringement, and therefore they based their case on the film itself and how it uses SpongeBob. -The film was not meant to be a story-centered film, hence the word "mockumentary" in the title. The film was actually more centered around "hey, what would it be like to spend a day with a cartoon character?" Lorenzo tried to make it more of what he imagined a day with SpongeBob to be like, in the form of a documentary. However, due to the vague details of the synopsis, many people have been lead to believe that it was more plot-centered. -The film was shot in live action, with green-screen effects in place to add SpongeBob into the movie. -Reagal Films and Inovism Films are the exact same company; however, Lorenzo decided to publish and develop the movie under 2 separate names (likely in an attempt to look more sophisticated). -The Amazon listing was put in place to take pre-orders for the film. Another listing with a different cover was put up sometime in 2012, but it was completely deleted from Amazon's systems (likely due to the infringing nature of the film). -The listing on the public library's website is peculiar, I must say. However, the reason for this is simple: one of Lorenzo's buddies from high school helped managed the library, and he convinced him to list the movie.
I will be taking any other questions. Legally I am not allowed to give out Lorenzo's contact information, however it seems that people have already posted ways to get in touch with him anyways.
Regards, Gavin H.
The writing is similar in both posts and both user joined yesterday with BJ joining yesterday at 2:33 AM EST and Gavin joining 21 hours ago or yesterday. Also in both posts notice that they both use % to same how much of the film was released. They're both offering content, but haven't specified when or what it is.
Now Gavin has 48 hour ultimatum to provide proof that he's a lawyer and legitimate content. As well as answering questions about Lorenzo Holley and Reagal Films. If he doesn't answer in 48 hours, I think we can conclude that he's BJ aka Jake Hutchinson. I've also bolded some writing that looks like josh wrote.
Is sockpuppeting or impersonating a lawyer a bannable offence here? I really think we need to get a mod to just I.P ban Babylon Josh from this forum because I can tell already he isn't going to stop here and will just keep trying to mess everything up. But if Hastings call went well yesterday maybe we will get the film and be able to end this search.
It sounds weird but am I the only one somewhat thrown off by the fact the first guy couldn't spell a name as simple as Elvis Presley right.Throwing that all aside,I for some reason have a feeling the second one is BJ or at least someone aspiring to be like him.haha.I know there is no way in hell that "Gavin" is a lawyer, he does not seem to comprehend much about the law,let alone seem intelligent enough to haven gotten through law school.The story isn't adding up,this is what makes this film all one big puzzle,we keep thinking we find the right pieces that fit when in reality they are in the wrong place or already there if you know what I'm saying.
The only reason why I'm so hesitant to condemn anyone is because in the slight chance that Gavin, ThatsJustLo, or anyone else is actually legit, we'd hate to shoo away a potential lead.
Does anyone remember way back on one of the 4chan threads, when Jason Boritz or whatever his name was actually showed up and everyone trolled him out? I'd hate for that to happen again.
The thing about Gavin is that I think it would be better to end up proving he's fake rather than shooing him out of here and then finding out he's legit. Like I said, I highly doubt he is legit, but it's better to be safe than sorry. There is a high possibility that Gavin is Johnhall AKA Babylon Josh, but the only reason why I didn't immediately make that comparison is because I read Johnhall's post and took it as a mockery to Gavin's. Like- Gavin is legit, and Johnhall is mocking Gavin's legit post. But I bet I'm stretching it. Anyway give him a couple days at most. Even though he's a "lawyer", if he has enough time to come and tell us a story, then he can find the time to reply to our questions.
And if the Nick server was just speculation, then I think we can confirm he was indeed a troll, though I really thought the server location or whatever showed up in the picture and that led people to the conclusion he was legit. I really think the whole "being in high school tumblr" thing proves enough, plus like you guys said, he never came back which rose my suspicion to begin with, and I also questioned how he knew they were leaked but never told us where or by who.
If Gavin does end up being fake he should be IP ban though.
I was under the impression that the messages were similar because Babylon Josh was specifically trying to imitate what Gavin wrote. Also, what does Gavin's intelligence have to do with this? He seem smart enough to me. It's fine to be skeptical but there's a difference between not believing everything you read online and not believing ANYTHING you read online. I have a feeling being hostile to those who come here trying to help us out may backfire in the future, even if this particular guy does happen to be lying. EDIT: Oh yeah, the vector thing. That came from the fact that the bottom of the image said "nickcentral.com" on it, which if Viacom's actual hub for that sort of stuff. Anybody can put a URL at the bottom of a photoshop document, but the point is that not many people even knew that website existed.
Good news and bad news. The good news is I gave Lorenzo that call (finally, sorry about the wait guys). The bad news is the number was disconnected. I'm going to work on finding other ways to contact him in the meantime.
It's up to you if you want to believe it, it's either take what I'm saying or leave it.
I am not giving out my name or firm, as I don't want to be known as "that guy that worked for a bootleg movie company".
Well how much of a bootleg company is Reagal even? I know just from making a list of the names in the credits of the films they make, It seemed like there was a good amount of employees working for them. Did all these people really actively work on making films for them? What kind of setup did they have in terms of production?
Many bootleg companies have relatively large teams of employees. I did know Lorenzo, and I did know Michael Parlett (buddy from high school. He found out about Reagal through me). However, Lorenzo came to me individually for legal help, so I don't know many others.
@marisam , I have to agree with you that things don't line up completely with ThatsJustLo. I read through more of his tumblr and it REALLY sounds like he was in high school at the time. The only thing that confuses me was the location of those vector files, like how people were saying they were on a secure Nick server that someone would have had to try really hard to fake.
gavinh I have a question for you sir. If you're a lawyer- with probably better things to do- why bother helping a random website like this try and get their hands on a borderline illegal movie.
The movie was not necessarily illegal, as it was classified as a parody. However, Lorenzo was aware of Viacom's aggressive nature when it comes to copyright, which lead to the ultimate cancellation of the film.
As for me having "better things to do", well, everybody has to have a life. If all I do is work, what's the point of working? I have two kids and a wife. While a lawyer's job is very hard and time-consuming, it certainly doesn't take up my entire life.
Lost media really fascinates me, to be honest. Most of the things I do on the Internet are basically work-related, but when I'm not doing work, I'll often find myself watching videos on YouTube or Netflix. So when I stumbled upon ADWSS in someone's video (it was top 30 lost cartoons or something like that), I was thrilled. When I found that there was a large search going on, I decided to lend my hand.