Inai Inai Baa!: Mushi no Ongakutai (Rina-chan era version)

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Inai Inai Baa!: Mushi no Ongakutai (Rina-chan era version) Aug 30, 2024 22:23:28 GMT cheesypizza2000 likes this

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Post by applesauce21boss on Aug 30, 2024 22:23:28 GMT

So, I've been a big fan of NHK's Inai Inai Baa! since 2020. A few months ago, I got a Rina-chan era songbook off Suruga-ya during a free shipping sale. In the book, there's a page for the song "Mushi no Ongakutai", which I had honestly thought began in the Fuuka-chan era. So off I went to listen to the "complete" Rina-chan era CD set that I converted to listen to on my iPhone...only to not find it there! Thinking that this was just an error and that it was a track skipped when I converted it (as was the case for another Inai Inai Baa! I own), I looked up the Amazon listing...and found a review saying that "Mushi no Ongakutai" was one of the two songs skipped on the CD (the other being the pretending song "Manekko Dondon"). Thankfully, the book had images of the segment, which may be all that remains of this version of the song.

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Inai Inai Baa!: Mushi no Ongakutai (Rina-chan era version) Sept 1, 2024 1:24:04 GMT

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Aug 30, 2024 22:23:28 GMT applesauce21boss said:

So, I've been a big fan of NHK's Inai Inai Baa! since 2020. A few months ago, I got a Rina-chan era songbook off Suruga-ya during a free shipping sale. In the book, there's a page for the song "Mushi no Ongakutai", which I had honestly thought began in the Fuuka-chan era. So off I went to listen to the "complete" Rina-chan era CD set that I converted to listen to on my iPhone...only to not find it there! Thinking that this was just an error and that it was a track skipped when I converted it (as was the case for another Inai Inai Baa! I own), I looked up the Amazon listing...and found a review saying that "Mushi no Ongakutai" was one of the two songs skipped on the CD (the other being the pretending song "Manekko Dondon"). Thankfully, the book had images of the segment, which may be all that remains of this version of the song.

What's very strange is on this page (says out of stock):
sp.shop.tsutaya.co.jp/dvd/product/4988001419860/?sc_ext=all_sp_store
the description states that the VHS スペシャルうたっちゃウンパ！has 虫のおんがくたい, but in this picture from a sold listing there is no mention of that song on the package
aucfree.com/items/v560137353
Maybe the description on Tsutaya was written before the VHS was released and the song list was not yet finalised?

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Inai Inai Baa!: Mushi no Ongakutai (Rina-chan era version) Sept 1, 2024 2:56:55 GMT

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Post by cheesypizza2000 on Sept 1, 2024 2:56:55 GMT

I just checked my 20th anniversary DVD and neither the Rina-chan chapter or みんなでうたおう has 虫のおんがくたい
PS. when I play any of the DVD's it says it has Japanese subtitle track but it turns out it's only song lyrics (no dialogue transcription). As I rely on closed captions (unless I'm rewatching something I have the script memorised - in which case I recite the lines - but that depends on being able to have captions on the first time) because my auditory processing is bad, I'm annoyed by this...

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Inai Inai Baa!: Mushi no Ongakutai (Rina-chan era version) Sept 1, 2024 13:46:40 GMT via mobile cheesypizza2000 likes this

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Post by applesauce21boss on Sept 1, 2024 13:46:40 GMT

Sept 1, 2024 1:24:04 GMT cheesypizza2000 said:

Aug 30, 2024 22:23:28 GMT applesauce21boss said:

So, I've been a big fan of NHK's Inai Inai Baa! since 2020. A few months ago, I got a Rina-chan era songbook off Suruga-ya during a free shipping sale. In the book, there's a page for the song "Mushi no Ongakutai", which I had honestly thought began in the Fuuka-chan era. So off I went to listen to the "complete" Rina-chan era CD set that I converted to listen to on my iPhone...only to not find it there! Thinking that this was just an error and that it was a track skipped when I converted it (as was the case for another Inai Inai Baa! I own), I looked up the Amazon listing...and found a review saying that "Mushi no Ongakutai" was one of the two songs skipped on the CD (the other being the pretending song "Manekko Dondon"). Thankfully, the book had images of the segment, which may be all that remains of this version of the song.

What's very strange is on this page (says out of stock):
sp.shop.tsutaya.co.jp/dvd/product/4988001419860/?sc_ext=all_sp_store
the description states that the VHS スペシャルうたっちゃウンパ！has 虫のおんがくたい, but in this picture from a sold listing there is no mention of that song on the package
aucfree.com/items/v560137353
Maybe the description on Tsutaya was written before the VHS was released and the song list was not yet finalised?

So it wouldn't have been lost media had they stuck with the prototype list on that site. Interesting.

Sept 1, 2024 2:56:55 GMT cheesypizza2000 said:

I just checked my 20th anniversary DVD and neither the Rina-chan chapter or みんなでうたおう has 虫のおんがくたい
PS. when I play any of the DVD's it says it has Japanese subtitle track but it turns out it's only song lyrics (no dialogue transcription). As I rely on closed captions (unless I'm rewatching something I have the script memorised - in which case I recite the lines - but that depends on being able to have captions on the first time) because my auditory processing is bad, I'm annoyed by this...

I have the same DVD (got it for Christmas in 2020). I knew it didn't have that segment on it, and I know of the subtitles problem because it's persisted since the DVDs began in 2003 (for instance, on the "GuruGuru Dokkan!" DVD, I remember the talking parts before the song weren't subbed).

So looks like with all this research, the only way to find this missing segment from the Rina-chan era is off-air VHS recordings. And since NHK is notably very strict with their content, it's going to be very difficult to find.

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Inai Inai Baa!: Mushi no Ongakutai (Rina-chan era version) Sept 1, 2024 16:33:51 GMT

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Post by cheesypizza2000 on Sept 1, 2024 16:33:51 GMT

Sept 1, 2024 13:46:40 GMT applesauce21boss said:

Sept 1, 2024 1:24:04 GMT cheesypizza2000 said:

What's very strange is on this page (says out of stock):
sp.shop.tsutaya.co.jp/dvd/product/4988001419860/?sc_ext=all_sp_store
the description states that the VHS スペシャルうたっちゃウンパ！has 虫のおんがくたい, but in this picture from a sold listing there is no mention of that song on the package
aucfree.com/items/v560137353
Maybe the description on Tsutaya was written before the VHS was released and the song list was not yet finalised?

So it wouldn't have been lost media had they stuck with the prototype list on that site. Interesting.

Sept 1, 2024 2:56:55 GMT cheesypizza2000 said:

I just checked my 20th anniversary DVD and neither the Rina-chan chapter or みんなでうたおう has 虫のおんがくたい
PS. when I play any of the DVD's it says it has Japanese subtitle track but it turns out it's only song lyrics (no dialogue transcription). As I rely on closed captions (unless I'm rewatching something I have the script memorised - in which case I recite the lines - but that depends on being able to have captions on the first time) because my auditory processing is bad, I'm annoyed by this...

I have the same DVD (got it for Christmas in 2020). I knew it didn't have that segment on it, and I know of the subtitles problem because it's persisted since the DVDs began in 2003 (for instance, on the "GuruGuru Dokkan!" DVD, I remember the talking parts before the song weren't subbed).

So looks like with all this research, the only way to find this missing segment from the Rina-chan era is off-air VHS recordings. And since NHK is notably very strict with their content, it's going to be very difficult to find.

on the wiki there is also mention of an early U-Tan song おやすみうーたん that says was not included on CD or VHS/DVD

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Inai Inai Baa!: Mushi no Ongakutai (Rina-chan era version) Sept 1, 2024 16:52:41 GMT

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Post by cheesypizza2000 on Sept 1, 2024 16:52:41 GMT

Sept 1, 2024 16:33:51 GMT cheesypizza2000 said:

Sept 1, 2024 13:46:40 GMT applesauce21boss said:

So it wouldn't have been lost media had they stuck with the prototype list on that site. Interesting.

I have the same DVD (got it for Christmas in 2020). I knew it didn't have that segment on it, and I know of the subtitles problem because it's persisted since the DVDs began in 2003 (for instance, on the "GuruGuru Dokkan!" DVD, I remember the talking parts before the song weren't subbed).

So looks like with all this research, the only way to find this missing segment from the Rina-chan era is off-air VHS recordings. And since NHK is notably very strict with their content, it's going to be very difficult to find.

on the wiki there is also mention of an early U-Tan song おやすみうーたん that says was not included on CD or VHS/DVD

Also I think most of the ワンワンわんだーらんど concerts do only highlights on both broadcasts and DVD's. I think the only ones that were publicly available in full were the decennial special and the shows performed without audience during the COVID-19 lockdowns. There is also a smaller show called ワンワンとあそぼう!ショー which originally allowed taking pictures but later on they reversed that. I remember watching a 2009 and 2015 videos that seem to be most of the show but the segments just the onee-san and onii-san have cuts. I have to check to see if I saved them anywhere. If find any videos can I send you the URL?

Inai Inai Baa!: Mushi no Ongakutai (Rina-chan era version)

Post by applesauce21boss on Aug 30, 2024 22:23:28 GMT

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