How to find the source of stolen music?

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How to find the source of stolen music? Aug 14, 2024 14:18:52 GMT

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Post by gordon on Aug 14, 2024 14:18:52 GMT

Sometimes, music identification services fail to identify the real name of a sound track because some video used it as a background music or stole it entirely.

For example, "Mr. Sunny Face" is a track by Wayne Jones from the YouTube audio library.

If you plug it into AHA-Music, it will return the titles of viral YouTube videos that used it, or obscure DistroKid videos that stole it, such as "Must Watch Fun - Bowdelle" (no YouTube URL), "Crossing paths - Peaceful Reflections Studio" (YouTube URL, a stolen copy of that song), and "Bad Money" by Mark Angel Comedy (YouTube URL, uses it as background music).

If you plug some tracks by "Vibe Tracks", you might get results of "DJoNemesis" who just added low-quality voiceovers. For example, Baffo d'Oro (DJoNemesis & Lilly Golden Version Mix) is from Vibe Tracks - Fun.

Because AHA-Music shows nothing beyond one result, it can not get past videos that stole it or viral videos that used it as background music.

Are there any music identification services that can show multiple results?

Midomi.com / SoundHound actually did, but it is defective.

And where do music identification services get their results from? It's not like AHA-Music crawls the entirety of YouTube, right?

Last Edit: Aug 14, 2024 14:30:30 GMT by gordon: missing dash

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How to find the source of stolen music? Aug 14, 2024 15:25:40 GMT

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Post by gordon on Aug 14, 2024 15:25:40 GMT

It seems TuneCore.com and Ingrooves are also abused to distribute stolen music.
Somehow, these tracks can be found using AHA-Music but are unplayable on YouTube.

Here is a link to a YouTube video that has 1555 views but is now blocked in every region. It was linked from this Reddit comment.

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How to find the source of stolen music? Aug 14, 2024 18:56:10 GMT via mobile

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Post by strongfox on Aug 14, 2024 18:56:10 GMT

Aug 14, 2024 14:18:52 GMT gordon said:

Sometimes, music identification services fail to identify the real name of a sound track because some video used it as a background music or stole it entirely.

For example, "Mr. Sunny Face" is a track by Wayne Jones from the YouTube audio library.

If you plug it into AHA-Music, it will return the titles of viral YouTube videos that used it, or obscure DistroKid videos that stole it, such as "Must Watch Fun - Bowdelle" (no YouTube URL), "Crossing paths - Peaceful Reflections Studio" (YouTube URL, a stolen copy of that song), and "Bad Money" by Mark Angel Comedy (YouTube URL, uses it as background music).

If you plug some tracks by "Vibe Tracks", you might get results of "DJoNemesis" who just added low-quality voiceovers. For example, Baffo d'Oro (DJoNemesis & Lilly Golden Version Mix) is from Vibe Tracks - Fun.

Because AHA-Music shows nothing beyond one result, it can not get past videos that stole it or viral videos that used it as background music.

Are there any music identification services that can show multiple results?

Midomi.com / SoundHound actually did, but it is defective.

And where do music identification services get their results from? It's not like AHA-Music crawls the entirety of YouTube, right?

Shazam works 99% of the time unless someone remixed the song or rapped over an instrumental or similar.

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How to find the source of stolen music? Sept 2, 2024 22:42:27 GMT

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Post by gordon on Sept 2, 2024 22:42:27 GMT

Aug 14, 2024 18:56:10 GMT strongfox said:

Shazam works 99% of the time unless someone remixed the song or rapped over an instrumental or similar.

Just tried it on Mr. Sunny Face, and this is the result:

www.shazam.com/song/1679957324/apna-raaj

Apna Raaj - Amani & ToffeeTV

Yet another narrated audio track that uses it as background music.

Perhaps Shazam knows the original but doesn't show it because it can only show one result at a time. This is why I am looking for a multi-result music recognition service.

Midomi.com showed multiple results while it worked, but it is now defunct.

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How to find the source of stolen music? Sept 3, 2024 1:24:50 GMT via mobile

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Post by strongfox on Sept 3, 2024 1:24:50 GMT

Sept 2, 2024 22:42:27 GMT gordon said:

Aug 14, 2024 18:56:10 GMT strongfox said:

Shazam works 99% of the time unless someone remixed the song or rapped over an instrumental or similar.

Just tried it on Mr. Sunny Face, and this is the result:

www.shazam.com/song/1679957324/apna-raaj

Apna Raaj - Amani & ToffeeTV

Yet another narrated audio track that uses it as background music.

Perhaps Shazam knows the original but doesn't show it because it can only show one result at a time. This is why I am looking for a multi-result music recognition service.

Midomi.com showed multiple results while it worked, but it is now defunct.

Shazam is damn accurate and if it's not on Spotify or Apple music then it picks the weird song if someone narrates over background song or rappes over background track. The reason you got that is because that is the one that is on probably all the services looking at Apple music first. Then it checks Spotify then YouTube. It has multiple songs and versions but it listens for the exact audio not close resemblance. So what you got is exact match or as close as Shazam gets. It will never be able to show multiple things because that's not how it works. You can always use the search function on the app but you need to know the song or artist. Shazam is 99% never wrong. And only when it never finds anything is when it's not recognizing that part of the song. There are no multi result apps or services out there and never will.

Last Edit: Sept 3, 2024 1:33:12 GMT by strongfox

Post by gordon on Aug 14, 2024 14:18:52 GMT

Post by gordon on Aug 14, 2024 15:25:40 GMT

Post by strongfox on Aug 14, 2024 18:56:10 GMT

Post by gordon on Sept 2, 2024 22:42:27 GMT

Post by strongfox on Sept 3, 2024 1:24:50 GMT

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