I was just wondering if anyone has ever come across reels of film at flea markets, antique stores, attics, etc. Many theatrical shorts of the 1920s (especially comedies) were released for home use on smaller, non-flammable film stocks. As you may know, the stuff they used in the theatres (nitrate film) can blow up or turn to dust.
These home movie films can decay, but not as seriously as nitrate can, and it doesn't explode. A lot of the times this is the only way these silent films survive, on non-explosive 16mm home movie film.
If any of you find some old films in your attic or wherever, please post about it on this thread.
It's a race against time, if these things stay in the humid attics for much longer, nothing will be able to be salvaged.
Remember, almost 90% of silent films are today considered to be lost, but that can change!
Many theatrical shorts of the 1920s (especially comedies) were released for home use on smaller, non-flammable film stocks.
Do you have a source for that statistic, nitratenerd? There are some situations where movies have been recovered on 16mm, but even then, it was expensive. Not many people had access to the equipment for home movies.
A lot of times films were rented, from libraries run by Kodak and other companies, so some people could buy a projector, but not even have to own any films. These libraries would close down and the prints would be sold to anybody for cheap.
They would also be copied for film collectors, and sometimes when they passed away their film prints were sold instead of sent to an archive. They also were aired on TV in the fifties, so copies of films show up everywhere, people just need to look for them and find them before they're gone.
A man named Ben Model actually has released three DVD's comprising of only lost films found on 16mm film. Most of it is from his collection. eBay is well covered when it comes to people looking for lost films, but not enough people are looking in their local antique places.
So next time anyone who sees this thread is at an antique store or flea market, look out for some films, and if you can afford them (they don't usually sell for that much) you should try and get them.
WARNING: Don't buy any films release by "Castle Films" or "Official Films" because they did not release any rare stuff. That stuff exists by the millions, so don't get 'em if you're looking for lost media.
Last Edit: Sept 7, 2017 20:56:47 GMT by nitratenerd
Post by Colonel Llama on Sept 10, 2017 16:45:02 GMT
I wonder if they were also released on 8mm. If that's the case i could look for some of them since i have an old 8mm projector lying around in my room. I have no films, though.
I wonder if they were also released on 8mm. If that's the case i could look for some of them since i have an old 8mm projector lying around in my room. I have no films, though.
The "Kodascope" rental library released some rare/lost stuff on 8mm in the early 30s, but they are really hard to find and other than the occasional bootleg nothing lost shows up on 8mm. My friend did find a unidentifiable (even the russian GosFilmoFund didn't know!) russian comedy on 8mm. For stuff on 8mm you have to be real lucky. Even if you dont have a projector, anytime you see a films somewhere, unspool it a little and try to find a title and report it here.
The best book for you to read is 10 000 cuts, I have come across some film, there was one canister that was nitrate that I refused. It was a single real, the canister had already oxidised, the year 1931 was written on it, I didn't take it, it's not worth the risk, as has been said, unbelievably expensive to digitize.
I collect currency and frequent the local Antique Mall. It's the largest Antique Mall in the Western half of Canada, so I'll be sure to take a look the next time I go there.