I think that Nirvana's music is more punk rock than grunge. Their more popular stuff is grunge like heart shaped box, smells like teen spirit, come as you are, ect. This could also be because grunge rock is rooted from classic punk rock.
(I mostly made this because i am bored)
“I’m not gay, but I wish I was just to piss off homophobes” -Kurt Cobain
On that note, Splendora (the band behind the Daria soundtrack and a favorite of mine) has often been called "grunge" but they don't really consider themselves "grunge." As stated in an interview: "But the sisters say they were more influenced by the CBGB bands of late-’70s New York (The Ramones, Television, Talking Heads), as well as the sunshine pop of late-’60s collective The Free Design. “'The idea [for Splendora] was to have this aggressive-sounding bed, with pretty vocals floating over it,”' Janet explains."
On that note, Splendora (the band behind the Daria soundtrack and a favorite of mine) has often been called "grunge" but they don't really consider themselves "grunge." As stated in an interview: "But the sisters say they were more influenced by the CBGB bands of late-’70s New York (The Ramones, Television, Talking Heads), as well as the sunshine pop of late-’60s collective The Free Design. “'The idea [for Splendora] was to have this aggressive-sounding bed, with pretty vocals floating over it,”' Janet explains."
A lot of punk bands do get confused for grunge sometimes, as grunge can just sound like punk with more distortion and yelling a lot of the time. Some songs are like 50% grunge and 50% punk. Especially since grunge is rooted in the underground punk scene and turned into grunge back in the late 80s
Steve Albini agreed on this, he didn't think Nirvana were truly Grunge.
I find them immensely overrated myself(at least Nevermind anyways, Bleach is more interesting. Cobain actually grew to dislike Nevermind thinking it sounded too polished, BTW am I the only one who found the cover art to Nevermind creepy as hell?) i'm just not big on that whole 90s Grunge scene. It's just too whiny for my tastes(and not in a catchy or interesting way like Nu Metal is IMO) and I find a lot of that music hasn't aged well. Like you basically take Lindsay Ellis's beginning rant from her NC review of "Reality Bites" and apply it to Grunge as a whole("I hate you 1991"). I kind hate what Grunge did to popular music as a whole where suddenly it became cool to suck at playing your instruments.
Steve Albini agreed on this, he didn't think Nirvana were truly Grunge.
I find them immensely overrated myself(at least Nevermind anyways, Bleach is more interesting. Cobain actually grew to dislike Nevermind thinking it sounded too polished, BTW am I the only one who found the cover art to Nevermind creepy as hell?) i'm just not big on that whole 90s Grunge scene. It's just too whiny for my tastes(and not in a catchy or interesting way like Nu Metal is IMO) and I find a lot of that music hasn't aged well. Like you basically take Lindsay Ellis's beginning rant from her NC review of "Reality Bites" and apply it to Grunge as a whole("I hate you 1991"). I kind hate what Grunge did to popular music as a whole where suddenly it became cool to suck at playing your instruments.
Were there any other bands downstream of Nirvana that you believe codified this paradigm shift?
"oooh, you're a- a freaked out child in the woods..."
Steve Albini agreed on this, he didn't think Nirvana were truly Grunge.
I find them immensely overrated myself(at least Nevermind anyways, Bleach is more interesting. Cobain actually grew to dislike Nevermind thinking it sounded too polished, BTW am I the only one who found the cover art to Nevermind creepy as hell?) i'm just not big on that whole 90s Grunge scene. It's just too whiny for my tastes(and not in a catchy or interesting way like Nu Metal is IMO) and I find a lot of that music hasn't aged well. Like you basically take Lindsay Ellis's beginning rant from her NC review of "Reality Bites" and apply it to Grunge as a whole("I hate you 1991"). I kind hate what Grunge did to popular music as a whole where suddenly it became cool to suck at playing your instruments.
I think the 2000's indie rock/music scene is a lot more interesting than Grunge because the scope is so much wider. The strokes, interpol, black keys, etc. all sound different from one another yet also fit in one neat little package if you were to listen to them in a row. Grunge isn't like that too much. I do appreciate grunge though, but it's become as overplayed as 80s music now that I can't really willingly listen to much of it anymore unless it's a new song I haven't discovered that hasn't been overplayed to death.
Steve Albini agreed on this, he didn't think Nirvana were truly Grunge.
I find them immensely overrated myself(at least Nevermind anyways, Bleach is more interesting. Cobain actually grew to dislike Nevermind thinking it sounded too polished, BTW am I the only one who found the cover art to Nevermind creepy as hell?) i'm just not big on that whole 90s Grunge scene. It's just too whiny for my tastes(and not in a catchy or interesting way like Nu Metal is IMO) and I find a lot of that music hasn't aged well. Like you basically take Lindsay Ellis's beginning rant from her NC review of "Reality Bites" and apply it to Grunge as a whole("I hate you 1991"). I kind hate what Grunge did to popular music as a whole where suddenly it became cool to suck at playing your instruments.
I think the 2000's indie rock/music scene is a lot more interesting than Grunge because the scope is so much wider. The strokes, interpol, black keys, etc. all sound different from one another yet also fit in one neat little package if you were to listen to them in a row. Grunge isn't like that too much. I do appreciate grunge though, but it's become as overplayed as 80s music now that I can't really willingly listen to much of it anymore unless it's a new song I haven't discovered that hasn't been overplayed to death.
I personally don't get tired of 80s music and i've heard a lot of current music get way more overplayed.
I personally find Black Keys and Strokes meh at best, i'm way more into stuff like Adema, Cold, Static-X, etc.
Steve Albini agreed on this, he didn't think Nirvana were truly Grunge.
I find them immensely overrated myself(at least Nevermind anyways, Bleach is more interesting. Cobain actually grew to dislike Nevermind thinking it sounded too polished, BTW am I the only one who found the cover art to Nevermind creepy as hell?) i'm just not big on that whole 90s Grunge scene. It's just too whiny for my tastes(and not in a catchy or interesting way like Nu Metal is IMO) and I find a lot of that music hasn't aged well. Like you basically take Lindsay Ellis's beginning rant from her NC review of "Reality Bites" and apply it to Grunge as a whole("I hate you 1991"). I kind hate what Grunge did to popular music as a whole where suddenly it became cool to suck at playing your instruments.
Were there any other bands downstream of Nirvana that you believe codified this paradigm shift?
downstream? you mean bands that came before Nirvana or after?
Steve Albini agreed on this, he didn't think Nirvana were truly Grunge.
I find them immensely overrated myself(at least Nevermind anyways, Bleach is more interesting. Cobain actually grew to dislike Nevermind thinking it sounded too polished, BTW am I the only one who found the cover art to Nevermind creepy as hell?) i'm just not big on that whole 90s Grunge scene. It's just too whiny for my tastes(and not in a catchy or interesting way like Nu Metal is IMO) and I find a lot of that music hasn't aged well. Like you basically take Lindsay Ellis's beginning rant from her NC review of "Reality Bites" and apply it to Grunge as a whole("I hate you 1991"). I kind hate what Grunge did to popular music as a whole where suddenly it became cool to suck at playing your instruments.
I think the 2000's indie rock/music scene is a lot more interesting than Grunge because the scope is so much wider. The strokes, interpol, black keys, etc. all sound different from one another yet also fit in one neat little package if you were to listen to them in a row. Grunge isn't like that too much. I do appreciate grunge though, but it's become as overplayed as 80s music now that I can't really willingly listen to much of it anymore unless it's a new song I haven't discovered that hasn't been overplayed to death.
I know everyone and their uncle and dad talks about how awesome the 80s were for alternative music (and they were) but my god, did the 2000s and early 2010s have some of the most interesting alternative music like...ever. I used to put on the local alternative rock station when I commuted in 2012 and it would just be banger after banger!