Will Vivian be Trans in the TTYD Remake?

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Will Vivian be Trans in the TTYD Remake? Feb 8, 2024 5:12:07 GMT extremewreck2000, duckiguess, and 2 more like this

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Post by lin7650 on Feb 8, 2024 5:12:07 GMT

What the title says. I think she will be because when the original game came out in the US back in 2004, being trans (and heck, being LGBT in general) was taboo. In addition, the game came out around the same time that the Postcards from Buster episode Sugartime was banned because it had two moms. While we still have a little bit to go when it comes to LGBT people in the media, episodes aren't no longer banned because they have an LGBT character/moment in them. And since every other version of TTYD either depicts Vivian as trans or a crossdresser (except the German and English versions), I feel like it would be a perfect time to make her trans.

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clockedbox Lost Media Fan Posts: 453	Will Vivian be Trans in the TTYD Remake? Feb 8, 2024 6:01:46 GMT via mobile extremewreck2000, duckiguess, and 1 more like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by clockedbox on Feb 8, 2024 6:01:46 GMT I hope so. love seeing good trans rep in media

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Will Vivian be Trans in the TTYD Remake? Apr 6, 2024 22:48:47 GMT extremewreck2000 and duckiguess like this

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Post by crumbelivable on Apr 6, 2024 22:48:47 GMT

Everyone thought that octoling in Splatoon 3 would be non-binary, and it turned out that he wasn't. I expect a similar outcome here. Nintendo is very much a more conservative company when it comes to these things.

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Will Vivian be Trans in the TTYD Remake? Apr 7, 2024 3:35:51 GMT extremewreck2000 likes this

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Apr 6, 2024 22:48:47 GMT crumbelivable said:

Everyone thought that octoling in Splatoon 3 would be non-binary, and it turned out that he wasn't. I expect a similar outcome here. Nintendo is very much a more conservative company when it comes to these things.

Well, I think the pronouns are different in the Japanese version? That's what I heard. I love her anyway lol
But the thing is Vivian is trans, just not in the English and German versions of the game. Heck, even the Italian version says that she's trans and she's proud of it! And she was even named after a trans actress in the Spanish version!

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Will Vivian be Trans in the TTYD Remake? Apr 7, 2024 4:03:45 GMT via mobile

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Post by crumbelivable on Apr 7, 2024 4:03:45 GMT

Apr 7, 2024 3:35:51 GMT lin7650 said:

Apr 6, 2024 22:48:47 GMT crumbelivable said:

Everyone thought that octoling in Splatoon 3 would be non-binary, and it turned out that he wasn't. I expect a similar outcome here. Nintendo is very much a more conservative company when it comes to these things.

Well, I think the pronouns are different in the Japanese version? That's what I heard. I love her anyway lol
But the thing is Vivian is trans, just not in the English and German versions of the game. Heck, even the Italian version says that she's trans and she's proud of it! And she was even named after a trans actress in the Spanish version!

Would be interesting to see, but I never expect much from nintendo in this regard.

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Will Vivian be Trans in the TTYD Remake? Apr 7, 2024 4:06:00 GMT via mobile

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Apr 6, 2024 22:48:47 GMT crumbelivable said:

Everyone thought that octoling in Splatoon 3 would be non-binary, and it turned out that he wasn't. I expect a similar outcome here. Nintendo is very much a more conservative company when it comes to these things.

WE HACE A CANONICALLY NONBINARY OCTOLING NOW BTW DEDF1SH AKA ACHT USES THEY/THEM
this is also something that was confirmed in both Japanese and english.

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Will Vivian be Trans in the TTYD Remake? Apr 7, 2024 4:14:20 GMT via mobile clockedbox likes this

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Post by crumbelivable on Apr 7, 2024 4:14:20 GMT

Apr 7, 2024 4:06:00 GMT clockedbox said:

Apr 6, 2024 22:48:47 GMT crumbelivable said:

Everyone thought that octoling in Splatoon 3 would be non-binary, and it turned out that he wasn't. I expect a similar outcome here. Nintendo is very much a more conservative company when it comes to these things.

WE HACE A CANONICALLY NONBINARY OCTOLING NOW BTW DEDF1SH AKA ACHT USES THEY/THEM
this is also something that was confirmed in both Japanese and english.

Huh. News to me.

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Will Vivian be Trans in the TTYD Remake? Apr 7, 2024 4:19:08 GMT via mobile extremewreck2000 and angiefoodcake like this

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Post by clockedbox on Apr 7, 2024 4:19:08 GMT

also Japan doesn't have less trans/non-binary people, they're just a lot more closeted/not vocal about it. they prefer privacy and subtlety whereas western countries tend to prefer explicit/open representation

there's a pretty decent video essay on trans characters in Japanese videogames, it goes over Vivian and a few other characters.
youtu.be/gRrVkZoN93c

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Will Vivian be Trans in the TTYD Remake? Apr 7, 2024 4:22:30 GMT via mobile

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Apr 7, 2024 4:14:20 GMT crumbelivable said:

Apr 7, 2024 4:06:00 GMT clockedbox said:

WE HACE A CANONICALLY NONBINARY OCTOLING NOW BTW DEDF1SH AKA ACHT USES THEY/THEM
this is also something that was confirmed in both Japanese and english.

Huh. News to me.

it was only confirmed recently. just before the DLC released.

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Will Vivian be Trans in the TTYD Remake? Apr 7, 2024 4:56:57 GMT

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Post by extremewreck2000 on Apr 7, 2024 4:56:57 GMT

Apr 6, 2024 22:48:47 GMT crumbelivable said:

Everyone thought that octoling in Splatoon 3 would be non-binary, and it turned out that he wasn't. I expect a similar outcome here. Nintendo is very much a more conservative company when it comes to these things.

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Will Vivian be Trans in the TTYD Remake? Apr 7, 2024 12:47:33 GMT via mobile extremewreck2000 and clockedbox like this

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Post by SeventhRing on Apr 7, 2024 12:47:33 GMT

Apr 6, 2024 22:48:47 GMT crumbelivable said:

Everyone thought that octoling in Splatoon 3 would be non-binary, and it turned out that he wasn't. I expect a similar outcome here. Nintendo is very much a more conservative company when it comes to these things.

They said that based on how Shiver looked with no backing

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DiamondCore Lost Media Fan Why do they call it oven when you of in the cold food out hot eat the food? Posts: 490	Will Vivian be Trans in the TTYD Remake? Apr 25, 2024 22:36:17 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by DiamondCore on Apr 25, 2024 22:36:17 GMT It’s starting to look like it’s the case maybe? youtu.be/DVmMacmzezo?si=rfOLK52ePSXab96w
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