Post by extremewreck2000 on Nov 11, 2022 1:32:06 GMT
I am curious right now, this is something that I actually didn't think about for a while. If Australia & New Zealand are very much on the Eastern hemisphere, then why are cartoons from there considered WESTERN animation? That doesn't make sense to me, even if they're PARTIALLY European inspired or something like that?
I actually consider putting this on that iceberg I'm working on with cTgman to replace one entry, but I don't know if I really should consider it, so instead I'd thought I'd ask it right here before doing so. I do plan on taking a break from it, instead focusing on Beepbox music because I haven't done ANYTHING with that stuff in what seems like 2 weeks.
Russian animation isn't anime, so it's western too.
Actually Russia is in the Eastern hemisphere, so it's not that. Also, Australia & New Zealand seem to lie in the Eastern hemisphere, & Western Europe BARELY touches the Western hemisphere. Oceania seems to not really be fully in the Western hemisphere, with very few of their islands being in that hemisphere, with the rest being in the Eastern hemisphere.
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Post by sakuraradiochan on Nov 13, 2022 22:08:24 GMT
Are they really Western? Yes, Australia and NZ are part of the historic Anglosphere and have historically had British-majority ethnic descendants and historic British-derived culture. Western Europe is definitely "Western" in culture. When people speak of "the West" they generally mean anything from the historic "Iron Curtain" line delineating the former European Socialist bloc on west till about Asia. South America is generally included here, but not Africa, unless you're talking about White South Africans or something.
Russian animation is more like its own thing, because Russia has always been more of its own thing.
Are they really Western? Yes, Australia and NZ are part of the historic Anglosphere and have historically had British-majority ethnic descendants and historic British-derived culture. Western Europe is definitely "Western" in culture. When people speak of "the West" they generally mean anything from the historic "Iron Curtain" line delineating the former European Socialist bloc on west till about Asia. South America is generally included here, but not Africa, unless you're talking about White South Africans or something.
Russian animation is more like its own thing, because Russia has always been more of its own thing.
That's just in a cultural sense, not in a HEMISPHERE sense. For example, the Philippines has a bit of American influence to it, but it's in the Eastern hemisphere, so no not really. The culture doesn't really matter whenever hemispheres are put into consideration you know, though I may need a good globe to look at.
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Literally no one uses "western civilization" to mean "western hemisphere."
I know that, that's why I said what I said. The culture & civilization don't really match up with the hemispheres. It was bound to happen anyway considering migration & immigration are a very common thing.
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Literally no one uses "western civilization" to mean "western hemisphere."
I know that, that's why I said what I said. The culture & civilization don't really match up with the hemispheres. It was bound to happen anyway considering migration & immigration are a very common thing.
Then why did you even start this thread? Western animation is western culturally, not because it's all from the western hemisphere.
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I know that, that's why I said what I said. The culture & civilization don't really match up with the hemispheres. It was bound to happen anyway considering migration & immigration are a very common thing.
Then why did you even start this thread? Western animation is western culturally, not because it's all from the western hemisphere.
Because L O C A T I O N S. It's not like the Philippines is Western since despite their early American influences, they're only in the Eastern hemisphere.
In fact, by the time you just replied... the creator of the iceberg has said to just ignore Australia & New Zealand since it has more or less hurt my brain & the one New Zealand entry has since been removed because of that. Anyways, here's the iceberg I'm referring to:
If you can understand that there's a difference between "western" in the geographic sense and "western" in the cultural/civilizational sense, why are you still so caught up with hemispheres?
Are they really Western? Yes, Australia and NZ are part of the historic Anglosphere and have historically had British-majority ethnic descendants and historic British-derived culture. Western Europe is definitely "Western" in culture. When people speak of "the West" they generally mean anything from the historic "Iron Curtain" line delineating the former European Socialist bloc on west till about Asia. South America is generally included here, but not Africa, unless you're talking about White South Africans or something.
Russian animation is more like its own thing, because Russia has always been more of its own thing.
That's just in a cultural sense, not in a HEMISPHERE sense. For example, the Philippines has a bit of American influence to it, but it's in the Eastern hemisphere, so no not really. The culture doesn't really matter whenever hemispheres are put into consideration you know, though I may need a good globe to look at.
The cultural sense is the sense that matters because the term didn't originate with hemispheres it started with defining "Western Europe" and the cultures that descended from the colonial powers from there.