Do lost websites count as lost media?

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Do lost websites count as lost media? Jul 15, 2022 10:16:39 GMT GrigioGuy likes this

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Post by chocolatebrownies on Jul 15, 2022 10:16:39 GMT

I've been looking for a couple of websites from my childhood and the web archive has been really helpful, but there were some that relied solely on flash that can't even be viewed anymore. One website I used to go on was the Mr Men Show website, which is actually backed up on Flashpoint, but only in the Japanese dub. It kind of got me thinking how many websites have suffered this fate, and whether any are just completely gone and can't be used with a flash emulator. I guess they would be considered lost media, but is there a specific sub-category for lost websites, and if so, are they worth finding (and are they possible to find in their original form)?

Sorry if this was a bit of a rambling thought process. I just don't see lost websites really talked about.

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Do lost websites count as lost media? Jul 15, 2022 14:29:05 GMT forlornjackalope and sigmahero045 like this

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Post by darkrage6 on Jul 15, 2022 14:29:05 GMT

Yes they absolutely do, one of the most tragic cases of lost media for me is the website Dawson's Desktop-the official website for Dawson's Creek. It had all kinds of details about the characters that weren't in the actual show, but unfortunately nobody ever archived the site before it closed down.

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Do lost websites count as lost media? Jul 15, 2022 14:48:44 GMT

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Post by stintergalactic on Jul 15, 2022 14:48:44 GMT

The one that gets me is all the old X-Entertainment articles that have been lost to time. There was so much classic content on there. You can still pull up the odd article here and there if you poke around the domain, but most of it is just gone, and it's very sad.

tjs9udfe Seriously Dedicated constant responder Posts: 574	Do lost websites count as lost media? Jul 15, 2022 14:57:13 GMT sigmahero045 likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by tjs9udfe on Jul 15, 2022 14:57:13 GMT Yes, as long as they're actually lost.

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Do lost websites count as lost media? Jul 15, 2022 16:03:54 GMT

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Post by darkrage6 on Jul 15, 2022 16:03:54 GMT

Jul 15, 2022 14:48:44 GMT stintergalactic said:

The one that gets me is all the old X-Entertainment articles that have been lost to time. There was so much classic content on there. You can still pull up the odd article here and there if you poke around the domain, but most of it is just gone, and it's very sad.

Can you access them through Wayback Machine?

stintergalactic Full Member Posts: 128	Do lost websites count as lost media? Jul 15, 2022 16:20:19 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by stintergalactic on Jul 15, 2022 16:20:19 GMT No, he had robot.txt on there, so nothing got archived.

bluebaron Seriously Dedicated Posts: 740	Do lost websites count as lost media? Jul 15, 2022 16:36:30 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by bluebaron on Jul 15, 2022 16:36:30 GMT Can anyone make foxbox.tv work?

tjs9udfe Seriously Dedicated constant responder Posts: 574	Do lost websites count as lost media? Jul 15, 2022 16:48:32 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by tjs9udfe on Jul 15, 2022 16:48:32 GMT ^ wrong thread, bud

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Do lost websites count as lost media? Jul 15, 2022 18:58:24 GMT sigmahero045 likes this

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Post by darkrage6 on Jul 15, 2022 18:58:24 GMT

Jul 15, 2022 16:20:19 GMT stintergalactic said:

No, he had robot.txt on there, so nothing got archived.

damn that sucks, I remember reading reviews of films like Super Mario Bros and Cold as Ice on there back in the day. Perhaps you can access them through Google Cache?

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Do lost websites count as lost media? Jul 16, 2022 1:25:19 GMT via mobile

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Post by stintergalactic on Jul 16, 2022 1:25:19 GMT

Jul 15, 2022 18:58:24 GMT darkrage6 said:

Jul 15, 2022 16:20:19 GMT stintergalactic said:

No, he had robot.txt on there, so nothing got archived.

damn that sucks, I remember reading reviews of films like Super Mario Bros and Cold as Ice on there back in the day. Perhaps you can access them through Google Cache?

Yeah, you can find a few of the old articles cached and saved in a few places. There's just so much that's lost, though, it makes me sad. X-Entertainment was such a huge part of internet and nostalgia culture history.

spongebob123 Senior Member Posts: 468	Do lost websites count as lost media? Jul 16, 2022 2:06:45 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by spongebob123 on Jul 16, 2022 2:06:45 GMT Well, The Rare kidzbop.com Is Definitely Lost Media With Rare Behind The Scenes Content!

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Do lost websites count as lost media? Jul 16, 2022 9:44:28 GMT

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Post by chocolatebrownies on Jul 16, 2022 9:44:28 GMT

There's one website I really want to find because I only have obscure memories of it, which is sesamestreet.com , before it relocated to sesamestreet.org . The web archive always redirects to the newer site, which doesn't even work without flash, and I've only found about 2 screenshots of the original site.

tjs9udfe Seriously Dedicated constant responder Posts: 574	Do lost websites count as lost media? Jul 16, 2022 15:32:23 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by tjs9udfe on Jul 16, 2022 15:32:23 GMT If you want to see what the Wayback Machine has for the original site, just select one of the earlier captures.

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Do lost websites count as lost media? Jul 16, 2022 20:56:41 GMT

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Post by forlornjackalope on Jul 16, 2022 20:56:41 GMT

Yes, at least I feel so. It could be some GeoCities website that wasn't archived properly or a forum. It all falls under the Internet media related content for me, which ends up being a sad case with sites that have become Internet folklore at this point or it housed content that's rare and hard to find if it isn't completely lost to time.

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Post by darkrage6 on Jul 15, 2022 16:03:54 GMT

Post by stintergalactic on Jul 15, 2022 16:20:19 GMT

Post by bluebaron on Jul 15, 2022 16:36:30 GMT

Post by tjs9udfe on Jul 15, 2022 16:48:32 GMT

Post by darkrage6 on Jul 15, 2022 18:58:24 GMT

Post by stintergalactic on Jul 16, 2022 1:25:19 GMT

Post by spongebob123 on Jul 16, 2022 2:06:45 GMT

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