Post by theCarbonFreeze on Dec 12, 2016 4:28:04 GMT
I think this Wiki ought to have articles and searches for certain political materials. I dont know why it hasnt been done already--I guess politics isnt most people's cup of tea, and I understand that, but its still important. As someone who has taken an interest this year and tried to track down old materials, its shocking how spotty the record is for pivotal materials from our past.
A few examples:
Many old conventions from the two major parties cannot be found in their entirety.
The primary debate between LBJ and JFK in 1960
The primary debate between McCarthy and RFK in 1968
The primary debates from 1972, chiefly between McGovern and Humphrey
The 1948 VP candidates' convention speeches (from both parties) exist only in short fragments
The 1952 VP candidates' convention speeches cannot be found anywhere
Thomas Dewey's nomination speech at the 1948 convention exists only in a short fragment
Ted Kennedy's keynote address at the 1972 convention cannot be found
Eugene McCarthy's convention speech advocating for the nomination of Adlai Stevenson over JFK (1960) cannot be found
George McGovern's speech at the 1984 convention exists only in a short fragment. While CSPAN claims to have the full convention, their footage seems to be based on an old VHS tape. It cuts out at some points, and cuts in abruptly towards the end of this particular speech.
^These are just a few examples off the top of my head. Ive started a political blog recently which is why Ive become interested in this stuff. Its frustrating getting invested in certain candidates/people from the past, like McCarthy or McGovern, and wanting to see everything they did but then a lot of it is nowhere to be found online. Not only that, but unlike say, some Spongebob movie, there doesnt seem to be any interest in finding it either. I cannot find a dedicated political forum or anywhere else that's talking about lost speeches and debates, much less finding them. Its really sad that such important artifacts of our heritage would go missing. I think most people dont give it a second thought because they assume the government, or CSPAN or something, would have all this backed up somewhere and easily viewable. But that doesnt seem to be the case.
Below is an extensive list of all debates, general election and primary. Someone (me?) could come up with a more extensive list of what needs to be found by going through it and cross indexing what's on CSPAN, Youtube, etc.
LIST OF DEBATES
A few examples:
Many old conventions from the two major parties cannot be found in their entirety.
The primary debate between LBJ and JFK in 1960
The primary debate between McCarthy and RFK in 1968
The primary debates from 1972, chiefly between McGovern and Humphrey
The 1948 VP candidates' convention speeches (from both parties) exist only in short fragments
The 1952 VP candidates' convention speeches cannot be found anywhere
Thomas Dewey's nomination speech at the 1948 convention exists only in a short fragment
Ted Kennedy's keynote address at the 1972 convention cannot be found
Eugene McCarthy's convention speech advocating for the nomination of Adlai Stevenson over JFK (1960) cannot be found
George McGovern's speech at the 1984 convention exists only in a short fragment. While CSPAN claims to have the full convention, their footage seems to be based on an old VHS tape. It cuts out at some points, and cuts in abruptly towards the end of this particular speech.
^These are just a few examples off the top of my head. Ive started a political blog recently which is why Ive become interested in this stuff. Its frustrating getting invested in certain candidates/people from the past, like McCarthy or McGovern, and wanting to see everything they did but then a lot of it is nowhere to be found online. Not only that, but unlike say, some Spongebob movie, there doesnt seem to be any interest in finding it either. I cannot find a dedicated political forum or anywhere else that's talking about lost speeches and debates, much less finding them. Its really sad that such important artifacts of our heritage would go missing. I think most people dont give it a second thought because they assume the government, or CSPAN or something, would have all this backed up somewhere and easily viewable. But that doesnt seem to be the case.
Below is an extensive list of all debates, general election and primary. Someone (me?) could come up with a more extensive list of what needs to be found by going through it and cross indexing what's on CSPAN, Youtube, etc.
LIST OF DEBATES
