Will Tiktok Being Banned In US Mean Users Will Be Archived

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Will Tiktok Being Banned In US Mean Users Will Be Archived Apr 25, 2024 2:40:51 GMT via mobile GrigioGuy and extremewreck2000 like this

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Post by strongfox on Apr 25, 2024 2:40:51 GMT

With the news that TikTok might be banned in January for USA if the company that owns it doesn't sell it will people start archiving users? What users would you like to see archived in case users start getting accounts closed and videos removed?

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pizzarolls9000 New Member I love pizza rolls and lost media Posts: 40	Will Tiktok Being Banned In US Mean Users Will Be Archived Apr 25, 2024 22:07:38 GMT extremewreck2000 likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by pizzarolls9000 on Apr 25, 2024 22:07:38 GMT Even though I despise TikTok, we should definitely at least make a TikTok archive of some kind. Especially for all those videos that failed to blow up in popularity.
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Will Tiktok Being Banned In US Mean Users Will Be Archived Apr 25, 2024 22:35:30 GMT extremewreck2000 likes this

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Apr 25, 2024 22:28:18 GMT ModWalletGuy said:

Some of the stuff on there are considered NTFW.

You mean National Turkey Foundation Wild, right?

Or it may be a typo of nsfw.

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Post by ModWalletGuy on Apr 25, 2024 23:09:18 GMT

Apr 25, 2024 22:35:30 GMT pizzarolls9000 said:

Apr 25, 2024 22:28:18 GMT ModWalletGuy said:

Some of the stuff on there are considered NTFW.

You mean National Turkey Foundation Wild, right?

Or it may be a typo of nsfw.

Last Edit: Apr 25, 2024 23:09:33 GMT by ModWalletGuy

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lostdaisy77 Senior Member I never had Chicken Selects, just Premium McWraps Posts: 322	Will Tiktok Being Banned In US Mean Users Will Be Archived Apr 25, 2024 23:38:09 GMT extremewreck2000 likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by lostdaisy77 on Apr 25, 2024 23:38:09 GMT I honestly think Tiktok is going to get bought out and all the old videos will stay right where they are.
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Will Tiktok Being Banned In US Mean Users Will Be Archived Apr 26, 2024 1:05:45 GMT via mobile extremewreck2000 likes this

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Apr 26, 2024 0:57:55 GMT ModWalletGuy said:

Wait, is it shutting down or just getting banned in the states?

just getting banned in the states in January if the company doesn't sell. It might mean that USA content gets removed. Not sure

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Apr 25, 2024 23:38:09 GMT lostdaisy77 said:

I honestly think Tiktok is going to get bought out and all the old videos will stay right where they are.

the ceo has been doing a lot to try to keep it, I dont think he will sell just yet. my bet is an endless legal battle that ends quietly years from now and everyone wonders what happened to tiktok

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Post by alexpine on Apr 26, 2024 19:41:09 GMT

Not sure how the TikTok ban is even going to work.

The exact legal language is in amendments to H.R. 815, specifically labelled the "Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act".

I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice, but from what I can tell the basic summary of this bill is as follows:

Provides an extensive legal definition of "foreign adversary application", and then for good measure explicitly states that TikTok and anything operated by ByteDance are foreign adversary applications, just in case.
Gives the President the power to determine whether particular applications are "foreign adversary applications", unless it's TikTok or operated by ByteDance in which case the President has no say in the matter
"Foreign adversary applications" cannot be distributed, maintained, or updated legally through any internet service hosted in the United States or that can be accessed by users in the United States.
Any foreign adversary applications can become not a foreign adversary application if the President determines there has been a transaction resulting in the application no longer having any sort of relationship with foreign adversary countries (or, as they say, a "qualified divestiture"). The president can delay the ban for up to three months if they can prove that progress is being made on making a foreign adversary application not a foreign adversary application.

The fines involved are mostly to things like the Apple App Store and Google Play, though there are fines that would be directed at TikTok for failing to disclose data.

The constitutionality of this probably rests on freedom of speech, as the phrasing here pretty clearly places this under Congress's power to "regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States" as stated in the Constitution. The protracted legal battle is probably going to reach the Supreme Court. Notably, the District of Columbia court (not the Supreme Court, a District Court) ruled in 2020 that banning TikTok via Executive Order was probably unconstitutional, but what that says about the powers of Congress is an open question.

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Post by rowler on Apr 26, 2024 20:41:47 GMT

I also wonder how the TikTok ban will work.

People outside the US can still use the site. So for US users, are they more or less just permanently locked out of their accounts? If you are from Canada can you still watch old US TikToks? Or will the accounts be locked? If so, if someone changes their location before the ban deadline, will their accounts still be there?

With the p0rn ban in some states, they track your location and lead you to an alternative site with a description talking about the ban. Tho people have been able to get around the ban using a VPN.

Whatever happens, a lot of the content is probably going to be mirrored onto other sites like Instagram and YouTube. Anyone in support of the ban to stop "bad content", well I don't think it's going to stop, just migrate.

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Will Tiktok Being Banned In US Mean Users Will Be Archived Apr 27, 2024 22:25:58 GMT extremewreck2000 likes this

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Post by darkrage6 on Apr 27, 2024 22:25:58 GMT

Apr 27, 2024 21:41:18 GMT extremewreck2000 said:

Reminds me of the whole KOSA Bill thing going on, which is a dreaded bill that will have a horrible effect on the internet & society when it becomes a law.

If it becomes law you mean, there's no guarantee it will.

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