Post by senshisun on Jun 15, 2017 18:07:00 GMT
When browsing the LMW's pages pending approval, I noticed the last item on the list was "Vocaloid KAITO Append Dropped Voicebank (dropped since the software moved from V2 to V3)". As someone who uses the Vocaloid software, I don't think this is notable enough for its own page.
We have two options:
1) Make a page for all of the Vocaloid voicebanks that were never released, with KAITO V2 Append as a section in the article.
2) Not create the page at all.
I'm going to try to give people enough information to make a decision on the matter, but I encourage you all to do your own research.
What is Vocaloid?
Vocaloid is a program created and patented by Yamaha that creates virtual singers. It is, at its simplest, a MIDI sample bank where the samples are phonemes of a given language. There have been four versions of the software, as well as online, app, and Mac-supported versions of the software. These are called V1, V2, V3, and V4, respectively.
Vocaloid can be split into two distinct parts. One is the Vocaloid program itself, which has all the code and the interface needed to run the program. However, there are no voices included with the system. Vocaloid voicebanks must be produced separately from the main system.
What is a Vocaloid Voicebank?
A voicebank is the set of samples for Vocaloid software. They contain every phoneme necessary for a user to create songs in a language. In Vocaloid 2 onward, there are also some extra phonemes for breaths and other sounds.
Voicebanks are set up to accept input for one language, although there are some that can accept input for multiple languages. There are Japanese, English, Spanish, Korean. and Chinese voicebanks available, each with their own dictionaries that the user can customise. Each voicebank has a name, which the users use to identify them.
What is KAITO?
KAITO (or Kaito, it doesn't really matter) is the second voice bank released for Japanese users. It is a male voice created by Yamaha and produced by Crypton Future Media, the company that would later go on to make the "ain't Japan wacky" trend known as Hatsune Miku. It was released in 2006. The voicebank was provided by Naoto Fuuga.
The Vocaloid 1 voicebanks were known for having many problems with sampling. Having one voice limited how many genres of songs a user could make with the software. Because of these problems, Crypton decided to release new versions of the software.
What is KAITO V2 Append?
Kaito V2 Append was a voicebank that fixed some of the problems with the original voicebank. It had several different types of voices to choose from. When the product was announced, the company was not sure whether they would release it for V2 or the upcoming V3. The planned appends were Mellow, Serious, Sweet, and Solid.
The V3 append came out in February 2013, three years after the first announcement. It was released with Straight, Soft, Whisper, and English voicebanks. V3 was incompatible with V1, so that likely helped settle the decision of what to do with the voicebank.
Even though the planned V2 appends were no doubt recorded and went into testing, if Crypton Future Media still has the voicebanks on a server somewhere, the results are probably glitchy, messy and unsatisfying. The voice samples would probably not be interesting, either.
What other Vocaloid voicebanks were not released?
There are seventeen voicebanks that were not released to the public, according to the Vocaloid Wiki. In addition, there was a planned V3 Megurine Luka voicebank that was transferred to V4 for its final release. Alys was going to be a French-language Vocaloid but was never released. There could be others that I've missed.
What is the argument for leaving unreleased Vocaloid voicebanks off the LMW?
Vocaloid is mostly popular in Japan. Most of the unreleased voicebanks were created for a Japanese audience. There are probably unreleased English voicebanks that were not even announced because English is a very difficult language to record. Mostly, it seems like we could use the same argument here that we did for dubs.
In Conclusion
I hope this is enough information for you guys to get a basic idea of the situation. I hope to have a good discussion with you.
We have two options:
1) Make a page for all of the Vocaloid voicebanks that were never released, with KAITO V2 Append as a section in the article.
2) Not create the page at all.
I'm going to try to give people enough information to make a decision on the matter, but I encourage you all to do your own research.
What is Vocaloid?
Vocaloid is a program created and patented by Yamaha that creates virtual singers. It is, at its simplest, a MIDI sample bank where the samples are phonemes of a given language. There have been four versions of the software, as well as online, app, and Mac-supported versions of the software. These are called V1, V2, V3, and V4, respectively.
Vocaloid can be split into two distinct parts. One is the Vocaloid program itself, which has all the code and the interface needed to run the program. However, there are no voices included with the system. Vocaloid voicebanks must be produced separately from the main system.
What is a Vocaloid Voicebank?
A voicebank is the set of samples for Vocaloid software. They contain every phoneme necessary for a user to create songs in a language. In Vocaloid 2 onward, there are also some extra phonemes for breaths and other sounds.
Voicebanks are set up to accept input for one language, although there are some that can accept input for multiple languages. There are Japanese, English, Spanish, Korean. and Chinese voicebanks available, each with their own dictionaries that the user can customise. Each voicebank has a name, which the users use to identify them.
What is KAITO?
KAITO (or Kaito, it doesn't really matter) is the second voice bank released for Japanese users. It is a male voice created by Yamaha and produced by Crypton Future Media, the company that would later go on to make the "ain't Japan wacky" trend known as Hatsune Miku. It was released in 2006. The voicebank was provided by Naoto Fuuga.
The Vocaloid 1 voicebanks were known for having many problems with sampling. Having one voice limited how many genres of songs a user could make with the software. Because of these problems, Crypton decided to release new versions of the software.
What is KAITO V2 Append?
Kaito V2 Append was a voicebank that fixed some of the problems with the original voicebank. It had several different types of voices to choose from. When the product was announced, the company was not sure whether they would release it for V2 or the upcoming V3. The planned appends were Mellow, Serious, Sweet, and Solid.
The V3 append came out in February 2013, three years after the first announcement. It was released with Straight, Soft, Whisper, and English voicebanks. V3 was incompatible with V1, so that likely helped settle the decision of what to do with the voicebank.
Even though the planned V2 appends were no doubt recorded and went into testing, if Crypton Future Media still has the voicebanks on a server somewhere, the results are probably glitchy, messy and unsatisfying. The voice samples would probably not be interesting, either.
What other Vocaloid voicebanks were not released?
There are seventeen voicebanks that were not released to the public, according to the Vocaloid Wiki. In addition, there was a planned V3 Megurine Luka voicebank that was transferred to V4 for its final release. Alys was going to be a French-language Vocaloid but was never released. There could be others that I've missed.
What is the argument for leaving unreleased Vocaloid voicebanks off the LMW?
Vocaloid is mostly popular in Japan. Most of the unreleased voicebanks were created for a Japanese audience. There are probably unreleased English voicebanks that were not even announced because English is a very difficult language to record. Mostly, it seems like we could use the same argument here that we did for dubs.
In Conclusion
I hope this is enough information for you guys to get a basic idea of the situation. I hope to have a good discussion with you.
