NOTE: This isn’t to be confused with the 1965 ‘The New 3 Stooges’ cartoon which was fully produced.
‘The Three Stooges Scrapbook’ was an unaired television pilot created in 1960 which starred the final iteration of the aptly titled Three Stooges comedy act (Moe Howard, Larry Fine, Curly-Joe DeRita). The 25-minute episode followed The Stooges getting kicked out of their apartment for cooking food, leading to them seeking refuge in the house of a mad scientist, played by long time Stooges supporting actor Emil Stika. The pilot also featured an animated short titled ‘The Spain Mutiny’ which followed the Stooges onboard the Mayflower with Christopher Columbus.
In 1963 the live-action portions of the pilot would be split up into 2 parts released in theaters. The cartoon featured in the pilot though was never released. That’s about all the info I have on the short outside of the fact the animated versions of the Stooges appear in the intro for the pilot as well as a couple of pictures. The live-action portions are available to view but I can’t find a single trace of the animated short.
It was reported to have been screened at a past Stooges convention, courtesy of a collector, and I'm pretty sure the Stoogeum has a print on file.
As for getting a copy for yourself? Nah, the individuals who have prints are terrified of having copies escape for fear of "devaluing" their hoard.
The Stooges' last picture, Kook's Tour, has turned up recently on a pristine, non-faded 16mm reel presumably from Norman Maurer's collection, but the seller wanted upwards of $35,000 for it. I hasn't turned up on Ebay again recently, so I don't know if the seller gave up or if someone paid the ransom?
It was reported to have been screened at a past Stooges convention, courtesy of a collector, and I'm pretty sure the Stoogeum has a print on file.
As for getting a copy for yourself? Nah, the individuals who have prints are terrified of having copies escape for fear of "devaluing" their hoard.
The Stooges' last picture, Kook's Tour, has turned up recently on a pristine, non-faded 16mm reel presumably from Norman Maurer's collection, but the seller wanted upwards of $35,000 for it. I hasn't turned up on Ebay again recently, so I don't know if the seller gave up or if someone paid the ransom?
Any recollection on where you remember hearing this at? Cause if the Stoogeum has a print there’s a chance that it can potentially be released publicly.
I think it was mentioned at the threestooges.net message boards, now referred to as The Kingdon of Moronika. I used to frequent the discussions until the board deteriorated under the auspices of one moderator who, sorta indirectly, turned it into a blog of his own musings about music, sports and film reviews, where threads rambled off-topic and NSFW images were allowed.
If the Stoogeum has a copy, I'm pretty sure you could arrange a visit and a screening. Not sure about Covid restrictions but, in the past, visits were by appointment only, and you pretty much get the run of the place for a few hours.
On the subject of rare film, the updated Three Stooges Scrapbook mentions an animated test film from, I think, Norman Maurer productions, where Moe Howard voices a pirate. This film was created, allegedly, using a rotoscoping animation process not unlike what was proposed as a plot device in The Three Stooges in Orbit. I need to glance through that book again for the details, but it is a very rare bit of film. <Edit> Just looked it up, and it was called the Artiscope process. The Film was titled "Captain Lafitte" and it pre-dated The New 3 Stooges by nearly a decade:
Also, just something to think about: The Three Stooges Scrapbook includes a photograph of a chunk of several frames of the very lost and unused reel from "Plane Nuts" with Ted Healy (the one where they were supposed to fly around the world backwards!).
Wonder where that clip of film came from, who had it, who trimmed it, and why the rest wasn't kept? Nitrate decomp? Trashed?
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I think it was mentioned at the threestooges.net message boards, now referred to as The Kingdon of Moronika. I used to frequent the discussions until the board deteriorated under the auspices of one moderator who, sorta indirectly, turned it into a blog of his own musings about music, sports and film reviews, where threads rambled off-topic and NSFW images were allowed.
If the Stoogeum has a copy, I'm pretty sure you could arrange a visit and a screening. Not sure about Covid restrictions but, in the past, visits were by appointment only, and you pretty much get the run of the place for a few hours.
On the subject of rare film, the updated Three Stooges Scrapbook mentions an animated test film from, I think, Norman Maurer productions, where Moe Howard voices a pirate. This film was created, allegedly, using a rotoscoping animation process not unlike what was proposed as a plot device in The Three Stooges in Orbit. I need to glance through that book again for the details, but it is a very rare bit of film. <Edit> Just looked it up, and it was called the Artiscope process. The Film was titled "Captain Lafitte" and it pre-dated The New 3 Stooges by nearly a decade:
Also, just something to think about: The Three Stooges Scrapbook includes a photograph of a chunk of several frames of the very lost and unused reel from "Plane Nuts" with Ted Healy (the one where they were supposed to fly around the world backwards!).
Wonder where that clip of film came from, who had it, who trimmed it, and why the rest wasn't kept? Nitrate decomp? Trashed?
Man this really opens up entirely new cans of worms for me and gives a lot more info than I would’ve even thought possible. And here I was thinking The Three Stooges didn’t have much going as far as lost media. Definitely a whole lot of stuff to look into.
I think you got the details wrong a bit The live action bits in question for theatres was remade from the ground up with nods to the pilot for the film "The Three Stooges in Orbit" The cartoon did pop up in the film but for a minute in one scene While the film is nearly beat by beat of the live-action bits from the pilot, they made new scenes to pad it out however, The Magic MacGuffin that saved their show (at least in the film) was "Electronic Cartoons", which is primarily a derivative of "Colormation", a short-lived process made by Leon H. Maurer (one of Moe's relatives)
this is proof that it's the same technique as the "electronic cartoons" in the film
I think you got the details wrong a bit The live action bits in question for theatres was remade from the ground up with nods to the pilot for the film "The Three Stooges in Orbit" The cartoon did pop up in the film but for a minute in one scene While the film is nearly beat by beat of the live-action bits from the pilot, they made new scenes to pad it out however, The Magic MacGuffin that saved their show (at least in the film) was "Electronic Cartoons", which is primarily a derivative of "Colormation", a short-lived process made by Leon H. Maurer (one of Moe's relatives)
this is proof that it's the same technique as the "electronic cartoons" in the film
Man so I nearly missed the mark with my knowledge in that case. I had only seen bits and pieces of In Orbit and assumed that any scenes from the Stooges Scrapbook used in it were very minimal rather than being a large portion of the film’s plot. So in actuality the lost media here is the full cartoon and original theatrical version of Stooges Scrapbook as a whole.
I think you got the details wrong a bit The live action bits in question for theatres was remade from the ground up with nods to the pilot for the film "The Three Stooges in Orbit" The cartoon did pop up in the film but for a minute in one scene While the film is nearly beat by beat of the live-action bits from the pilot, they made new scenes to pad it out however, The Magic MacGuffin that saved their show (at least in the film) was "Electronic Cartoons", which is primarily a derivative of "Colormation", a short-lived process made by Leon H. Maurer (one of Moe's relatives)
this is proof that it's the same technique as the "electronic cartoons" in the film
Man so I nearly missed the mark with my knowledge in that case. I had only seen bits and pieces of In Orbit and assumed that any scenes from the Stooges Scrapbook used in it were very minimal rather than being a large portion of the film’s plot. So in actuality the lost media here is the full cartoon and original theatrical version of Stooges Scrapbook as a whole.
I think you got the details wrong a bit The live action bits in question for theatres was remade from the ground up with nods to the pilot for the film "The Three Stooges in Orbit" The cartoon did pop up in the film but for a minute in one scene While the film is nearly beat by beat of the live-action bits from the pilot, they made new scenes to pad it out however, The Magic MacGuffin that saved their show (at least in the film) was "Electronic Cartoons", which is primarily a derivative of "Colormation", a short-lived process made by Leon H. Maurer (one of Moe's relatives)
this is proof that it's the same technique as the "electronic cartoons" in the film
In Orbit does have the pilot as the main storyline of the film, the majority of the film tells the story of them trying to save the show but then it progresses to them saving the world It's the laziest of the Three Stooges films, doesn't help matters that this was made to appease a bunch of karens (the PTA) who complained that the comedy in "Have Rocket, Will Travel" might be imitatable - never mind the fact that the violence in question is staged to begin with
Every once in a while I do a search for this to see if anything’s popped up. How is it that the live action portion is easily viewable, but this one is so hard to come by? Supposedly it even features the legendary Mel Blanc.
Surely the family had copies of both theatrical short versions of the pilot at least (it’s possible the original pilot version was cut up to produce these), so why wasn’t it ever included on C3 licensed video compilations? I recall getting a DVD from the library including Jerks of All Trades, Kook’s Tour and a third featurette edited together from home movies taken by the Stooges, and it was produced by C3. That seems like it would’ve been the ideal place to include these.
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The entire pilot film was released on the Sony 100 Year Anniversary Stooges Bluray set, albeit with the very last title screen blacked out, shortly after Curly G. premiered the cartoon portion on his own YouTube channel.
Incredible! Thanks so much for editing/posting this, "CloggedMind"! I've literally been looking for this for 30+ years, ever since I was a child, reading and re-reading about it in the (confusingly identically named) print biography, "The Three Stooges Scrapbook". Despite the "Spain Mutiny" being panned in the book, I found this to be far more true to the Stooges style comedy than the overly talky Cambria cartoons that would come a few years later, plus it's a fun novelty to hear Mel Blanc playing off of the Stooges!
I think it was unfairly panned in the published Three Stooges Scrapbook review. The exaggerated drawings, expectedly limited animation and voice acting from The Stooges captured the essence of what they were back in the Columbia shorts days pretty well. The addition of Mel Blanc to the voice cast certainly elevated the production, no doubt. Sad thing is the Scrapbook format would have been too expensive to produce if each episode were to replicate the pilot with fully dressed sets, location shooting in 35mm and guest actors for both the live action and animated spots. We know Mel didn't work cheap! And, for the later series I doubt they could have afforded Paul Frees for more than the pilot episode.
The Cambria cartoons weren't as entirely awful as their reputation. The wraparounds did get repetitive and a few animated segments suffered from the rushed production, resulting in extremely weak writing, planning and some cartoons just didn't make sense-- like the one with the lion hiding in the cabin, getting shot at and having his tail slammed in a closet door and laughing about it.
Weak writing and rushed production plus cost-cutting were the greatest detriment to the Cambrias. Even The Stooges sometimes voiced their own characters like they were seeing the scripts for the first time-- quite likely! We did get to hear Moe play Tim Bear a couple of times, though, with the audio slowed down to lower his pitch.
Other episodes like Super Everybody were quite cleverly written bits of comic satire and drifting into self-aware parody. Hal Smith was a driving force behind those animated bits and having Harold Brauer (once) and Emil Sitka in various roles for the live action bits was a huge plus.
One big downside to this series, aside from the severely limited budget evident in the live action, 16mm sketches, was the overuse of the gravelly-voice for characters that all sounded like Get Outta Town Before Sundown Brown, all presumably attributed to Johnny Coons (though samples of his Uncle Johnny show show no trace of this type of voice.. at least the ones I've seen). Hal Smith, with his slew of characterizations, accents and enthusiasm was the real driving force for the animated portions for the Cambria series.
Somewhere in my stacks 'o discs I have some of the background music used in the Cambrias (and, Mr. Magoo and others). Always enjoyed those cues, especially the one where The Stooges were artists trashing each others' canvasses in the live action bit.
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I mean that's fair - I do have a fondness for the Cambria cartoons as they were on every Public Domain VHS collection in the 80s, but I think my biggest issue with them is that the Stooges had come under pressure from watchdog groups to be less violent. It doesn't sit right to have a live action segment where Larry and Curly Joe accidentally bury Moe in sand in the sand and him merely yell at the duo without hitting them. There are some genuine laugh out loud moments, though (https://youtu.be/3ln9zq-abjg?t=73) I did like "Super Everyone", even if it was clearly a bunch of old men writers making fun of comics they've never read, it still reads as absurdist fourth wall breaking goofiness, which I can totally get behind. I would love to hear isolated musical tracks from the Cambria cartoons, especially the one that sounds like a legally distinct "Hooray for Hollywood" (https://youtu.be/FdHcBJ3-xBY?t=316). More than anything "Spain Mutiny" tells the jokes visually, which is a must for slapstick, so I can forgive one frame changes from pose to pose, and the somewhat inconsistent models.
I need to dig through my stuff and find the cues that I have. Here's 2 you'll probably recognize immediately: we.tl/t-9LKpr4kRCF
The "Hooray for Hollywood" type song comes from the General Music Library. Someone isolated the track from the show here www.youtube.com/watch?v=HiQOWAq9onI