Coconut Fred is an obscure show to a lot of people. It's on its way to fading away. Thankfully i have all the episodes but there is a lost pilot episode.
Today only a few seconds of footage remain. I got the footage from a youtuber named "1downpoison" who used footage from the pilot in her YTP's "Butchy is Sexually Frustrated" and "Grounder lost his penis". Attempts to contact her about the footage have failed since she hasn't been active on her account for a year.
There's also an image that fits into the art style for the pilot.
I'm gonna go into speculation territory.
Based off of the little footage i can see, it's most likely an early version of the episode "Master of Disaster".
I have a theory that Sammy Oriti, one of the creators of Coconut Fred who used to upload episodes to his Youtube account, had uploaded a copy of the pilot and later privatized it. Since his account was terminated a few years ago, there's not much we can do. I know he has a Facebook, but let's refrain from contacting him through there.
This is all i have to say. There's not much else i have. Any thoughts on this?
Last Edit: Feb 16, 2021 21:55:47 GMT by miraclemiku
Has anyone tried contacting anybody who's worked on the show, yet? I know you mentioned Sammy's on Facebook. Maybe one person can message him there rather than having a bunch of people bombard him with questions. There's also a few more people we can get in touch with if you're against the Facebook route.
Last Edit: Mar 7, 2021 14:02:54 GMT by checkyourhead
First thing i'd like to say is that 1downpoison does not have the pilot. She lost the file when it got corrupted.
Second thing i'd like to say is that there are images of the pilot being spotted at the Kids WB Crash the Backlot tours in Six Flags in 2005.
At the tours, one of the attractions was a room where people could record voice overs for certain scenes, including scenes from the Coconut Fred pilot. These photos have been cropped for better visibility.
I want to thank Kevin Tichenor for these photos. However, please do not message him about the pilot as he doesn't have any more information or memory about the pilot.
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Wow I haven't thought about this show in a while but I do remember watching it on Kids WB a couple times. It wasn't horrible from what I remember and lost pilots are my favorite kind of lost media to search for so I'm interested in this!
I could definitely ask the creator about it either on Facebook or if I can find him on Twitter. Most creators seem to lose their pilots over the years so I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't have it, I love how this is is giving me Jimmy Two Shoes and Kappa Mikey vibes.
We should definitely come up with a backup plan in case he can't find it but the theory about it possibly having been on YouTube at one point makes a lot of sense.
Has anyone checked more obscure sites like Vimeo or reels from other animators who worked on the show?
Wow I haven't thought about this show in a while but I do remember watching it on Kids WB a couple times. It wasn't horrible from what I remember and lost pilots are my favorite kind of lost media to search for so I'm interested in this!
I could definitely ask the creator about it either on Facebook or if I can find him on Twitter. Most creators seem to lose their pilots over the years so I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't have it, I love how this is is giving me Jimmy Two Shoes and Kappa Mikey vibes.
We should definitely come up with a backup plan in case he can't find it but the theory about it possibly having been on YouTube at one point makes a lot of sense.
Has anyone checked more obscure sites like Vimeo or reels from other animators who worked on the show?
I was afraid of contacting Sammy Oriti since i didn't want to bother him. I don't want to make him uncomfortable with us, so my idea was that i would contact him as a last resort.
Looking up "coconut fred" on vimeo and dailymotion didn't give results.
Wow I haven't thought about this show in a while but I do remember watching it on Kids WB a couple times. It wasn't horrible from what I remember and lost pilots are my favorite kind of lost media to search for so I'm interested in this!
I could definitely ask the creator about it either on Facebook or if I can find him on Twitter. Most creators seem to lose their pilots over the years so I wouldn't be surprised if he didn't have it, I love how this is is giving me Jimmy Two Shoes and Kappa Mikey vibes.
We should definitely come up with a backup plan in case he can't find it but the theory about it possibly having been on YouTube at one point makes a lot of sense.
Has anyone checked more obscure sites like Vimeo or reels from other animators who worked on the show?
I was afraid of contacting Sammy Oriti since i didn't want to bother him. I don't want to make him uncomfortable with us, so my idea was that i would contact him as a last resort.
Looking up "coconut fred" on vimeo and dailymotion didn't give results.
I don't think he'd be uncomfortable or bothered by getting a message about some of his past work. I've contacted lots of animators and creators before and all of them were really nice and enjoyed discussing their content.
The only way someone would feel uncomfortable about getting contacted is if the message was worded poorly or it made mention of the fact that you're from an online community and lots of people are interested in finding it.
When I ask creators about their old work I always say that I'm a fan of their show and was interested in how it started- which is being honest and makes searching a lot more fun and goes along the general lines of how to make contacts with people as well. Making these contacts is also a key factor in finding pieces of lost media since pilots are usually not online at all and only kept by the creators, especially in this case where it's believed Sammy had the pilot on his YouTube account at one point.
Since we've confirmed the user who made the YouTube Poop doesn't have it anymore, I would suggest contacting the creator as being the next step.
Last Edit: Jun 17, 2022 6:32:56 GMT by LSuperSonicQ
I was afraid of contacting Sammy Oriti since i didn't want to bother him. I don't want to make him uncomfortable with us, so my idea was that i would contact him as a last resort.
Looking up "coconut fred" on vimeo and dailymotion didn't give results.
I don't think he'd be uncomfortable or bothered by getting a message about some of his past work. I've contacted lots of animators and creators before and all of them were really nice and enjoyed discussing their content.
The only way someone would feel uncomfortable about getting contacted is if the message was worded poorly or it made mention of the fact that you're from an online community and lots of people are interested in finding it.
When I ask creators about their old work I always say that I'm a fan of their show and was interested in how it started- which is being honest and makes searching a lot more fun and goes along the general lines of how to make contacts with people as well. Making these contacts is also a key factor in finding pieces of lost media since pilots are usually not online at all and only kept by the creators, especially in this case where it's believed Sammy had the pilot on his YouTube account at one point.
Since we've confirmed the user who made the YouTube Poop doesn't have it anymore, I would suggest contacting the creator as being the next step.
The idea scares me since the one contact i have seems to be a personal Facebook account. I think that where the fear of discomfort comes from. I might not have any other options. I need to get over this anxiety and act, but i'm not sure doing that is good or bad. I'll draft a message and see where that takes me.
Edit: I wrote a message and sent it to him, i can relax now. All i can do now is wait and hope i can talk with him, but i'm okay with not getting a response if that's what ends up happening.
Last Edit: Jun 17, 2022 22:50:32 GMT by miraclemiku
I fucked up. I tried to message Sammy Oriti and that only resulted in a conversation that was extremely uncomfortable for the both of us.
For some reason i expected to have him trust me right away when he knows nothing about me and i just messaged him about this pilot of an old show from 2005, saying that i wanted to see it and archive it. I didn't mention any searches or this wiki.
I want to apologize to him but i might make things worse by messaging him again. I'm afraid that saying nothing will be considered suspicious too.
I was completely incompetent when trying to talk with someone who was much more important than me, my autism and social anxiety along with my lack of experience in lost media searches made everything go wrong. I messaged him without getting anyone else's advice because i wanted "character growth" and "to contribute to something". Selfish behavior and thoughts only made everything worse, i came on too strong because i don't know how i should act when talking to people.
I shouldn't have messaged him. I don't know what this means for the search but i don't even care about that anymore. I'm having selfish thoughts where i'm scared and thinking "i made Sammy really uncomfortable and suspicious because of how i talked to him, i did something bad and anything that happens to me is my fault". Because i don't want to bother Sammy Oriti anymore, i should just stop messaging him entirely.
I don't know if this means messaging him is off the table entirely. He might be suspicious or uncomfortable with anybody messaging him about the pilot now, or that might be my fear talking. I don't know. I don't even care about this search anymore. I just want to stop fucking up and to stop making others feel weird and terrible.
I don't want you to blame him at all. This was all me. Everything talked about here was all because of me and my behavior when messaging him. Please don't blame him for anything that goes wrong, because i caused it to happen like this.
On the LMW discord server i asked to be banned from searching for lost media because i don't want this kind of thing to happen again.
I think tomorrow or someday, I will ask Sammy Oriti on Facebook gently and not referencing any thing about archiving or we wanna find it for the lost media wiki. Anyways, I am gonna say that I'm a fan of his show (Coconut Fred) and ask that is there a pilot for the show and can I see it (if he still has it (the pilot)).
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I fucked up. I tried to message Sammy Oriti and that only resulted in a conversation that was extremely uncomfortable for the both of us.
For some reason i expected to have him trust me right away when he knows nothing about me and i just messaged him about this pilot of an old show from 2005, saying that i wanted to see it and archive it. I didn't mention any searches or this wiki.
I want to apologize to him but i might make things worse by messaging him again. I'm afraid that saying nothing will be considered suspicious too.
I was completely incompetent when trying to talk with someone who was much more important than me, my autism and social anxiety along with my lack of experience in lost media searches made everything go wrong. I messaged him without getting anyone else's advice because i wanted "character growth" and "to contribute to something". Selfish behavior and thoughts only made everything worse, i came on too strong because i don't know how i should act when talking to people.
I shouldn't have messaged him. I don't know what this means for the search but i don't even care about that anymore. I'm having selfish thoughts where i'm scared and thinking "i made Sammy really uncomfortable and suspicious because of how i talked to him, i did something bad and anything that happens to me is my fault". Because i don't want to bother Sammy Oriti anymore, i should just stop messaging him entirely.
I don't know if this means messaging him is off the table entirely. He might be suspicious or uncomfortable with anybody messaging him about the pilot now, or that might be my fear talking. I don't know. I don't even care about this search anymore. I just want to stop fucking up and to stop making others feel weird and terrible.
I don't want you to blame him at all. This was all me. Everything talked about here was all because of me and my behavior when messaging him. Please don't blame him for anything that goes wrong, because i caused it to happen like this.
On the LMW discord server i asked to be banned from searching for lost media because i don't want this kind of thing to happen again.
Pretty sure he may think you're at least willing to preserve it for the public to see. It's not gonna be as bad as you'd think it would be. I mean, if Sammy Oriti uploaded them on YouTube then certainly he must've known something about preservation & lost media.