There are 7 Kid's shows on this list: Bebe the Clown, Crystal Palace, Flippo the Clown, Fox 28 Kids' Club, Luci's Toy Shop, Romper Room, and TV 28 Kid's Club. I'm starting to look at Luci's Toy Shop and Flippo the Clown first because they are old shows and both may have played on channel 2 like the OP claimed, though I'm not totally sure, I forget my source where I looked up channel names in Colombus. But I cross checked them and those were the only two shows that seemed to match up. Though I could be wrong about this whole thing lol.
There are 7 Kid's shows on this list: Bebe the Clown, Crystal Palace, Flippo the Clown, Fox 28 Kids' Club, Luci's Toy Shop, Romper Room, and TV 28 Kid's Club. I'm starting to look at Luci's Toy Shop and Flippo the Clown first because they are old shows and both may have played on channel 2 like the OP claimed, though I'm not totally sure, I forget my source where I looked up channel names in Colombus. But I cross checked them and those were the only two shows that seemed to match up. Though I could be wrong about this whole thing lol.
Those would be much too old to match the description of the Pink Morning Cartoons. Most local stations stopped producing local non-news/sports programming decades ago (depending on the market, think late 60s into the 70s), and there is very clearly CG animation in (at the very least) "Everything's Coming Up Spring". I'm going to look into this further because this is certainly a mystery worth solving.
Edit: Looks like both of the purported public access stations were shut down sometime after this program supposedly aired. It is possible that the current iteration of Columbus Public Access (a government-run station) might know about it, but I'm not too sure about that.
Last Edit: Jun 22, 2020 20:42:27 GMT by Terry the Cat
Post by Etienne_LeLoupChien on Jun 22, 2020 22:29:47 GMT
I was very intrigued by these videos. Although I don't discard the possibility that they might possibly be fake, I made a few findings and possible clues.
I've been reading that they could have possibly been shown on either channels 2 or 53 in the Columbus, Ohio area in the late 90s. Judging by the style and quality of these animations, I'm more inclined to think that they must have been shown on a smaller network. According to the Wikipedia article on WWHO (Channel 53), around the late 90s it was primarily a WB affiliate which had only debuted a few years earlier. The station began airing in 1987 and the WB network started in 1995. One sentence that did catch my attention was the following line:
In the fall of 1998, WWHO began to carry programming in the overnight hours from the upstart Pax TV network (now Ion Television), as Pax struggled to find a full-power affiliate in the Columbus market.
According to the original uploader of the videos, it was shown around 5 AM which might correspond to those overnight hours as mentioned in the Wikipedia article. As I recall at the time when PAX TV first aired in the late 90s nationwide, its programming was very family-oriented (at least more so than today). These animations do fit the style of what a new, struggling, wholesome TV network such as PAX TV would have aired then. I do recall that our local PAX TV station (KPXB-TV) did run a Saturday Morning block called "PAX Kids" with some old cartoons, including reruns of "The Get Along Gang" around 1998-1999. However, I do not recall that particular animation. I found a rare video online of an intro to PAX Kids:
Perhaps it would be wise to check out the TV schedule listings for WWHO from the fall of 1998 from the local newspapers in Columbus, Ohio such as "The Columbus Dispatcher." It's not on Google Newspaper Archives, but there is a searchable database that contains archives of "The Columbus Dispatcher" available to people with a Columbus Metropolitan Library card. There is a chance that this could either been shown in either few markets or maybe many others as well.
Post by thevoiddragon on Jun 23, 2020 10:33:00 GMT
I'm not trying to put people off trying to find it, but I think a problem here is there's just absolutely nothing to link any of this found stuff to this particularly. We've got information about this "show" of basically "some shows were on in the morning on some channel", which is something that is undoubtedly true, but that doesn't add to the credibility of this specific thing - If we don't even know if it's real or not, and it could be anything (remember he isn't even sure about the channel) then until there's something more to help either way (E.g. more information from the uploader) it's just a wild goose chase regardless.
Last Edit: Jun 23, 2020 10:37:00 GMT by thevoiddragon
There’s no sense in trying to “find” this, there’s plenty of evidence here that it’s fake. Almost everyone here is trying to professionally prove that fact instead of trying to find a fake show. There’s no evidence it’s real besides very vague things claimed by the person.
Last Edit: Jun 23, 2020 17:06:38 GMT by nostalgiaguy
There’s no sense in trying to “find” this, there’s plenty of evidence here that it’s fake. Almost everyone here is trying to professionally prove that fact instead of trying to find a fake show. There’s no evidence it’s real besides very vague things claimed by the person.
Just gotta somehow get some more information from the original uploader (e.g. getting him/her to admit it's fake). The original uploader is actually responding to comments on at least one of the videos, so something is bound to happen. (Maybe inconsistencies begin to appear in the story? Maybe we get an explanation for the duplicate scene? Maybe it was an aborted attempt at an ARG?) We won't know anything for sure unless we ask. (Of course, don't flood the videos with comments.)
There’s no sense in trying to “find” this, there’s plenty of evidence here that it’s fake. Almost everyone here is trying to professionally prove that fact instead of trying to find a fake show. There’s no evidence it’s real besides very vague things claimed by the person.
Even if it is fake (which it probably is), I think it would be interesting to know the story behind the clips and who made them.
I have doubts that Jenkem Chic is the original creator; they have not posted any other animations or seem to be an animator. My guess would be that the videos were originally some sort of surreal animation or student film, possibly from Columbus, that was later uploaded by Jenkem Chic with the fades and/or the VHS effects added. For what purpose I have no know idea, possibly for a failed ARG or just as a curiosity.
On the off chance the video was a real public access show (there were some strange things on public access after all), it will be very very difficult to find given that Columbus's public access channel (Columbus Community Cable Access/ Channel 21) shut down in 2002 and there seems to exist almost no record of it.
There’s no sense in trying to “find” this, there’s plenty of evidence here that it’s fake. Almost everyone here is trying to professionally prove that fact instead of trying to find a fake show. There’s no evidence it’s real besides very vague things claimed by the person.
Even if it is fake (which it probably is), I think it would be interesting to know the story behind the clips and who made them.
I have doubts that Jenkem Chic is the original creator; they have not posted any other animations or seem to be an animator. My guess would be that the videos were originally some sort of surreal animation or student film, possibly from Columbus, that was later uploaded by Jenkem Chic with the fades and/or the VHS effects added. For what purpose I have no know idea, possibly for a failed ARG or just as a curiosity.
On the off chance the video was a real public access show (there were some strange things on public access after all), it will be very very difficult to find given that Columbus's public access channel (Columbus Community Cable Access/ Channel 21) shut down in 2002 and there seems to exist almost no record of it.
Yeah, the story of the shutdown of Columbus Public Access is an entirely different rabbit hole to go down.
Honestly the more I thought about it, the more this sorta reminds of Candle Cove. We should plug in "Pink Morning Cartoon" into a Google search and see if it's mentioned elsewhere prior to all of this attention it got. I really think it was an attempt at a creepypasta, it didn't catch on, and so out of boredom the creator decided to change up the backstory.
By Candle Cove, do you mean the with the backstory or the quality of the video? I was thinking more of Agamemnon Counterpart, honestly.
There’s no sense in trying to “find” this, there’s plenty of evidence here that it’s fake. Almost everyone here is trying to professionally prove that fact instead of trying to find a fake show. There’s no evidence it’s real besides very vague things claimed by the person.
Even if it is fake (which it probably is), I think it would be interesting to know the story behind the clips and who made them.
I have doubts that Jenkem Chic is the original creator; they have not posted any other animations or seem to be an animator. My guess would be that the videos were originally some sort of surreal animation or student film, possibly from Columbus, that was later uploaded by Jenkem Chic with the fades and/or the VHS effects added. For what purpose I have no know idea, possibly for a failed ARG or just as a curiosity.
On the off chance the video was a real public access show (there were some strange things on public access after all), it will be very very difficult to find given that Columbus's public access channel (Columbus Community Cable Access/ Channel 21) shut down in 2002 and there seems to exist almost no record of it.
I think that's where I'm lost, I really wanna know the origin of the clips if they are fake. If a second party was involved in making them, then do they even know about this current search? Things would eventually come out right? But I actually think it very well could be Jenkem Chic who made them, they are very crudely animated and it's actually not hard to find free 3D models to animate, and the animation is minimal so it wouldn't be hard to do basic movements if one were to look up a tutorial.
But I also think it's possible these clips exist from something else and were heavily edited. Although, the narration definitely feels homemade to me. I even wonder if we can find a video where Jenkem is talking and compare it to the narration because it really does just sound like someone recorded themselves on audacity and added a reverb effect.
The other thing of course being that the hat scenes are different from each other, so this adds to a lot of questions. If somebody other than Jenkem animated these scenes, who are they and why did they redo the hat scene but make it slightly different? If it was Jenkem, was he just being careless on the details? I mean let's assume Jenkem did animate these scenes with very little knowledge about CGI, that would sorta explain the discrepancies and the VHS filters (to hide obvious mistakes, hell I've done this with some projects).
Honestly the more I thought about it, the more this sorta reminds of Candle Cove. We should plug in "Pink Morning Cartoon" into a Google search and see if it's mentioned elsewhere prior to all of this attention it got. I really think it was an attempt at a creepypasta, it didn't catch on, and so out of boredom the creator decided to change up the backstory.
By Candle Cove, do you mean the with the backstory or the quality of the video? I was thinking more of Agamemnon Counterpart, honestly.
TW: Flashing/Strobe lights and colors:
I mean more so that it's a creepy kids show that only some people have seen on public access tv and that it's being discovered on a forum.
Edit: I forgot about that video, I love it so much.
So I just watched the Blameitonjorge youtube video that included this as one of the mini topics on lost media case files. The voice sounded familiar to me on the “Pink Morning Cartoon”. The voice sounded like Robert Brown, a pedophile who was the lead on another public access television show on the Christian network in the 90s. I might be wrong on this but I hope it could possibly help.
So I just watched the Blameitonjorge youtube video that included this as one of the mini topics on lost media case files. The voice sounded familiar to me on the “Pink Morning Cartoon”. The voice sounded like Robert Brown, a pedophile who was the lead on another public access television show on the Christian network in the 90s. I might be wrong on this but I hope it could possibly help.
When I look it up it's Ronald Brown, also he did puppeteering from the looks of it so I dunno if he would have any involvement in this. But I'll look and see.
On a somewhat related note, tried just looking up "Everything's Coming Up Spring" song on it's own and nothing relevant pops up. Even tried to do it by years on google and although a lot of early 2000s preschool websites come up with spring songs, none of them have the song listed.
Is there no way we could contact moderators of the channels? Idk I'm new to this but this interests me. I personally think it's real and would love to see it found, as I used to watch the same type of crappy TV shows when I was a kid.
Is there no way we could contact moderators of the channels? Idk I'm new to this but this interests me. I personally think it's real and would love to see it found, as I used to watch the same type of crappy TV shows when I was a kid.
That would be difficult to do, considering the channel in question shut down in 2002, with no direct successor public access station.