Post by forlornjackalope on Nov 23, 2019 9:02:51 GMT
Well, this is an interesting one for the books.
Justin Whang uploaded a video on the topic about a very weird anime/OVA from the 1980s or 1990s. According to the /x/ user who saw it, it centers on a group of girls who are confined in a room with no door or means of escape and have philosophical discussions about life, sobbing, and committing suicide on graphic ways out of desperation. The user adds that one girl helped one of them drown themselves in a sink because she couldn't do it herself. No official name for this is known except for the /x/ user recalling something like "Go For a Punch" and another user asking if "Saki Sanobashi" seemed familiar after trying to dig around more for it.
The most we have to go off is the /x/ thread, a subreddit for Saki Sanobashi (which we don't even know if that's the real name), and other 4chan subs to /a/ trying to get leads for what this is, where it came from, or if it even exists. The search for this has been going on for over a year, and it seems like we've hit a standstill but according to Whang, someone is still archiving the search.
For any anime enthusiasts out there, does this ring any bells for you? Let's see if we can help solve this mystery.
As much as I want to call it fake, it sounds extremely plausible. The term "dark web" is loose enough to include sketchy websites on the clearweb, the plot sounds like a more messed up version of "Hell is Other People," with people being trapped in a room. This sounds like clockman or orangutans, written off as myths until they are found.
Pros:
Several people remembering it Generic plot that could easily be based off of western stories 80s asthetics are cheaper to make, it could be a homebrew anime by college art students
Cons
sounds creepypasta ish (a la squidward's suicide) Subbing in english with voices in japanese? That sounds a little professional for an obscure anime sources are literally 4chan.
I think that this leads me to ask to moderators, what level of proof is required to create an article on lost media that we do not know exists? Is this good enough? Should we wait so we don't become the creepypasta wiki?
in any case, the name is likely not accurate, we would need to find some anime experts, and even then it seems fairly obscure
Post by thatgamingasshole on Nov 26, 2019 2:11:50 GMT
I'm pretty certain this is real. Without going too deeply into it, because I hate to search for this stuff, but there is basically an entire genre of anime which amounts to "tentacle porn with the Jigsaw Killer" called, I believe, Guro or Goru? And this honestly sounds like par the course, from what I have heard (and a bit of what I've seen) of the stuff. In fact if I recall there is one series, which is fairly well known among this "genre" of porn for Ted Bundy, which sounds a lot like this Go For Punch thing.
The premise, from what I understand, was that a disinherited teenage girl was kidnapped and then we follow her as she's brutally sexually assaulted and eventually kills herself. No I've never seen it, I sadly walked in on someone recounting a fairly detailed account of it. But the point is that while this sounds insane, this Go For Punch may be part of the same series, which from what I understand had the same plot as the original Saw but with explicit sex scenes and most of it was focused on a Japanese schoolgirl.
Which is why I'm fairly certain Go For Punch is real. I doubt that's the title. Given the fact that this is probably extremely obscure (thank Christ) I would imagine that the person who first learned about this misunderstood the title. It was probably something insane like "Gofukundopanch" or something that translates into Flower of the Spring of the Blue Water Punching...or something else predictably Japanese lol
I'm pretty certain this is real. Without going too deeply into it, because I hate to search for this stuff, but there is basically an entire genre of anime which amounts to "tentacle porn with the Jigsaw Killer" called, I believe, Guro or Goru? And this honestly sounds like par the course, from what I have heard (and a bit of what I've seen) of the stuff.
I have no doubt that there are plenty of guro doujinshi that have content that is similar to what is said to be featured in, 'Go For a Punch'. I struggle to believe that animated guro would have been created in the '80s or '90s without becoming infamous amongst Japan's then-anime fans, though. Which reminds me; isn't there a page on Know Your Meme which lists a lot of shock websites and images that were popular in Japan, I think in the mid-2000s? I can't remember what the page is named, but I suppose that the list might include an old guro anime?
Last Edit: Nov 26, 2019 5:38:59 GMT by scheepers: Grammatical error(s)
Post by YoshiKiller2S on Nov 26, 2019 15:27:53 GMT
When the original 4chan user was giving on the title of the video he watched on the deep web that supposedly was "Go for a Punch" he said, "it was like this ---- Go for a punch ------------dl/(some code consisting of letters and numbers)".
I have a theory about the code in the title.
You how in torrents there's info in the file name (example VHSRip, DVDR, WEB-DL, H.264 etc) well what if that code was torrent info or codec/encode info.
This could mean that it was a torrent of a VHS rip or DVD rip or this could mean nothing and it was just random numbers and letters with literally no meaning at all.
When the original 4chan user was giving on the title of the video he watched on the deep web that supposedly was "Go for a Punch" he said, "it was like this ---- Go for a punch ------------dl/(some code consisting of letters and numbers)".
I have a theory about the code in the title.
You how in torrents there's info in the file name (example VHSRip, DVDR, WEB-DL, H.264 etc) well what if that code was torrent info or codec/encode info.
This could mean that it was a torrent of a VHS rip or DVD rip or this could mean nothing and it was just random numbers and letters with literally no meaning at all.
I don't it's only just a theory.
I think this makes sense. I would also reiterate, and again this is just a theory, that "Go For Punch" is likely not a title, or not an accurate translation, assuming an accurate translation exists.
If it were some code following it, like a torrent or whatever, then it's possible this may be a LINE spoken by the characters. Keep in mind I've seen clips of Mobile Suit Gundam titled "Hail Zeon somethingsomething" so it's possible this was a reference to what was happening in a specific scene. Like a line someone says, or the idea behind the scene.
Also to be blunt, speaking as an avowed Weeb, the Japanese don't know what words mean. They routinely have groups in series or even entire series called things like "Buff Clan" and "Global Chris" and "Big Valley" (and yes all of those are factions from various anime) so the literal translation of the title may be Go For Punch but it's unlikely that necessarily reflects what it is.
I'm pretty certain this is real. Without going too deeply into it, because I hate to search for this stuff, but there is basically an entire genre of anime which amounts to "tentacle porn with the Jigsaw Killer" called, I believe, Guro or Goru? And this honestly sounds like par the course, from what I have heard (and a bit of what I've seen) of the stuff.
I have no doubt that there are plenty of guro doujinshi that have content that is similar to what is said to be featured in, 'Go For a Punch'. I struggle to believe that animated guro would have been created in the '80s or '90s without becoming infamous amongst Japan's then-anime fans, though. Which reminds me; isn't there a page on Know Your Meme which lists a lot of shock websites and images that were popular in Japan, I think in the mid-2000s? I can't remember what the page is named, but I suppose that the list might include an old guro anime?
I understand the skepticism, but it's hardly implausible: this for example (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KS5YhZASL4&t=5s) details an almost identical case, of an anime existing and being "known" but having literally no trace save for a handful of posts and maybe a single screenshot. Until YEARS later when he found a single copy. Then there's also Phantom Blood.
Last Edit: Nov 29, 2019 21:15:33 GMT by thatgamingasshole: I had to edit that cause it was unreadable, lol my bad
I honestly wouldn't compare this to Clockman, since Clockman at least had people mentioning the thing before Commander Santa did; and they had key elements that proved to us that it might exist (the kid losing either shoes or gloves, the wizard, and the scene of the wizard coming out of the clock and kidnapping the child). We didn't had anyone before that dude on 4chan mentioning that they also remember something like Go for a Punch until Whang made his video; no descriptions are similar outside of girls trapped in a bathroom and dying. Some say they had uniforms, some say they were always naked, no one has mentioned their physical appearence, etc. etc., and some people have actually lied about watching it (the dude on Reddit who made a recreation of the title screen). So I honestly wouldn't take any of the newly resurfaced "confirmations" at face value.
It has been said that the title "Saki Sanobashi" doesn't sound natural in Japanese; and it was NOT mentioned by the original poster, but by other user, who said the whole thing reminded him of a manga called Saki Sanobashi.
It's a good guess that "Go for a Punch" might be a line spoken by one of the characters, but due to how obscure the OVA is (if it exists), it would be almost impossible to find it just by looking into Saki Sanobashi.
The plot and concept is also very vague, to the point where over at 4chan people found things with those key elements (girls trapped in a bathroom) but ended up being dead ends to proving the existence of Saki Sanobashi. That One-shot manga by Shintaro Kago, an illustration from 2004 (and the artist confirmed that it had nothing to do with Go for a Punch or Saki Sanobashi, I think he didn't even heard of it, not to mention none of the girls fit the original description)...
My guess is that the OP was just misremembering or mixing up some gore anime he saw. Either because he's got a bad memory or because he wanted to troll everyone and draw them into a search for an anime that doesn't exist. It's 4chan after all...
It's also a good point that there's no way someone made something so brutal and it ended up being obscure, in 1980s/1990s Japan. It would probably be a huge thing with the eroguro artists and all that. I mean, yes, OVAs back then could introduce explicit scenes of gore and/or sex but nothing like Go for a Punch. As far as I know.
I really want this to be real but I honestly don't believe it is. Hopefully it gets found. That would indeed be the Clockman for weebs.
Post by thatgamingasshole on Nov 29, 2019 21:24:24 GMT
My best guess is that the CLIP was called Go For Punch, not the anime itself. I'm kind of more convinced it exists I guess because I have seen at least, that I know of, two similar cases. As mentioned there was Phantom Blood, a JoJo movie, which for whatever reason was buried and literally no one has seen it since it premiered. It was given a THEATRICAL release and still buried. The other was the one that was mentioned in that YT video, Hana No Asuka 2, which was so rare that there was no physical evidence it existed prior to a literal single video being unveiled.
And frankly those were tame, safe, broadly acceptable anime that were buried because they were either terrible, forgettable or both. This is literally gore porn! I can easily see some cheap knockoff of a porny splatter tendril anime being made and someone burying it either out of fear or because it was an underground thing to begin with.
I guess my point is, it's hardly implausible.
I'm still unclear as to what "Saki Sanobashi" means, but considering the comic (or manga, whatevs) has a similar premise I can kind of see how this may be a for lack of a better word "adaptation" of it. I also found some really rare hentai once that was so cheap and poorly animated, I'm pretty sure from what I was told the characters had no names besides the main "lead" character. Again it's...bizarre but hardly unlikely or implausible. Because again that's just safe, girl-on-girl hentai about big tiddies and a lonely housewife, this is WAY more disturbing.
My best guess is that the CLIP was called Go For Punch, not the anime itself. I'm kind of more convinced it exists I guess because I have seen at least, that I know of, two similar cases. As mentioned there was Phantom Blood, a JoJo movie, which for whatever reason was buried and literally no one has seen it since it premiered. It was given a THEATRICAL release and still buried. The other was the one that was mentioned in that YT video, Hana No Asuka 2, which was so rare that there was no physical evidence it existed prior to a literal single video being unveiled.
And frankly those were tame, safe, broadly acceptable anime that were buried because they were either terrible, forgettable or both. This is literally gore porn! I can easily see some cheap knockoff of a porny splatter tendril anime being made and someone burying it either out of fear or because it was an underground thing to begin with.
I guess my point is, it's hardly implausible.
I'm still unclear as to what "Saki Sanobashi" means, but considering the comic (or manga, whatevs) has a similar premise I can kind of see how this may be a for lack of a better word "adaptation" of it. I also found some really rare hentai once that was so cheap and poorly animated, I'm pretty sure from what I was told the characters had no names besides the main "lead" character. Again it's...bizarre but hardly unlikely or implausible. Because again that's just safe, girl-on-girl hentai about big tiddies and a lonely housewife, this is WAY more disturbing.
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure: Phantom Blood had promotional material, trailers, and even music made for it, so we knew all along it existed. The only thing that surfaced by surprise was the pilot/teaser trailer from 2004.
Hana no Asuka-Gumi 2 DID had physical evidence of its existence; in the video for the first Hana no Asuka-Gumi, Kenny himself says that he found soundtracks made for the OVA, promotional pictures, pictures of a VHS tape and even an animation cell. We knew Hana no Asuka-Gumi 2 existed; however the OVA was so rare no one even knew what it looked like.
We don't even have the real name of Go for a Punch... I highly doubt that this is real. I wish I was proven wrong in the future tho
I found the KnowYourMeme page that I remembered; its title is, 'Words You Must Never Search'. The list included in the page doesn't mention a guro anime.