Media we have a very strong feeling will go lost?

chara
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Media we have a very strong feeling will go lost? Aug 23, 2016 6:57:09 GMT

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Post by chara on Aug 23, 2016 6:57:09 GMT

I had no idea where to post this, so I thought I would give it a try here...
Anyway, I was browsing some websites, and I came across an announcement on CDJapan that Britney Spears's new album would have Japan-only bonus tracks. Immediately after reading this I remembered quite a lot of bonus tracks go missing/lost. I don't know I just have this feeling these tracks will go lost. Then again, in the description, it says that the bonus tracks are subject to change, so I might be making a fuss for nothing. I would buy this to make sure these don't go lost if they DO exist, but it's hard for me to make money being so young (not even old enough to get a job, and I'm saving up for many things right now), so I thought I would drop by here and find out if it would be worth it to buy this album (I'm not even a Britney Spears fan.) Any opinions?

Listing (scroll down to the Description): www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/SICP-4953

FYI, the tracklist isn't even up yet, so no song names, either.

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Media we have a very strong feeling will go lost? Aug 23, 2016 23:15:00 GMT

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Post by exmember on Aug 23, 2016 23:15:00 GMT

I don't believe that will become lost at all, her album will sell in Japan by the bucket load and likely end up online in lossless within a matter of days.

I find that there's always music at risk of becoming lost. Right now there's quite a few bands that are releasing material that will no doubt become big one day, but what's out right now will be gone forever.

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Media we have a very strong feeling will go lost? Aug 23, 2016 23:30:57 GMT

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Post by Lucy on Aug 23, 2016 23:30:57 GMT

What bonus tracks are you referring to that have been lost before? In terms of mainstream music I can't think of any, aside from those in REALLY rare pressings (like promo releases or something). It seems like everything I've come across with Japan-exclusive stuff has the bonus tracks up on YouTube almost immediately, and less-than-legal downloads accessible from a simple google search. If it's something that truly isn't on any public sites, 9 times out of 10 you can still find it on Soulseek (and presumably what.cd, if you happen to be a member there (which I'm not))

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Media we have a very strong feeling will go lost? Aug 23, 2016 23:46:47 GMT

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Post by Spoofer on Aug 23, 2016 23:46:47 GMT

Anything on YouTube, with how the site operates and what is preferred by the system, many things can and will go lost no matter what. I can see the day when somehow, PewDiePie's videos could go missing. May be a stretch but it CAN happen.

MortoQueiba New Member NOW BLOW! Posts: 44	Media we have a very strong feeling will go lost? Aug 24, 2016 2:33:20 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by MortoQueiba on Aug 24, 2016 2:33:20 GMT I have ripped every video from the Dilbert Animated Youtube channel and burned them to disc for this very reason. I am also considering doing the same for Vinesauce Vinny's Tomodachi Life streams.
	Last Edit: Aug 24, 2016 2:41:18 GMT by MortoQueiba: Wrong channel linked. My short guide on ripping lost media. My other short guide on replacing the outer shell of a VHS tape.

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Media we have a very strong feeling will go lost? Dec 12, 2016 5:17:04 GMT

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Post by theCarbonFreeze on Dec 12, 2016 5:17:04 GMT

Definitely anything on Youtube as a previous poster said. Armake21's videos got taken down years ago and many are still missing. I remember following many reviewers and original content shows that got taken down or just deleted their accounts and their stuff is now long gone.

By that same token, anything written on blogs or hosted on online servers that the creators dont back up elsewhere will probably go lost.

Anything indie or any number of obscure shows on the one of thousands of TV channels that doesnt find an audience will go off the air and no one will care or notice until it is too late.

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virtuaboi Senior Member Posts: 432	Media we have a very strong feeling will go lost? Dec 12, 2016 6:36:38 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by virtuaboi on Dec 12, 2016 6:36:38 GMT Yup. A lost media Sesame Street piece "Out to Lunch" was featured on YouTube during its early days, but has since gone missing.
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Media we have a very strong feeling will go lost? Dec 12, 2016 13:38:05 GMT

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Post by theCarbonFreeze on Dec 12, 2016 13:38:05 GMT

the idea that you can find anything online kinda pisses me off for this reason. I think it lulls people into a false sense of security. Hell, even if stuff IS online now, that's no guarantee of its longevity since servers can go down, websites can fail, and so much more all the time. The key is constant vigilance and constant backups. There ought to be some kind of committee dedicated to preserving ALL media if there isn't already. There is the Library of Congress, the Paley Center for Media and more already. They ought to pool resources and create 3 or more independent collections of all media. Probably never gonna happen, but in an ideal world...

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justremembered New Member Posts: 11	Media we have a very strong feeling will go lost? Sept 10, 2020 0:16:54 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by justremembered on Sept 10, 2020 0:16:54 GMT I feel like Oobi will be lost, it’s not a household name and I even forgot it’s name or what it was about, I only remembered hands, but it’s not lost yet

alexpine Full Member Perpetually annoyed at everyone else Posts: 142	Media we have a very strong feeling will go lost? Sept 10, 2020 1:20:26 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by alexpine on Sept 10, 2020 1:20:26 GMT Something on Unnus Annus will go lost. I'm sure people are preserving most of it but I just KNOW something will have slipped through the cracks.
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Media we have a very strong feeling will go lost? Sept 12, 2020 21:31:43 GMT

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Post by GrigioGuy on Sept 12, 2020 21:31:43 GMT

Sept 10, 2020 1:20:26 GMT alexpine said:

Something on Unnus Annus will go lost. I'm sure people are preserving most of it but I just KNOW something will have slipped through the cracks.

I was considering preserving this, but I don't know...

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Media we have a very strong feeling will go lost? Sept 13, 2020 0:21:07 GMT

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Post by gabas on Sept 13, 2020 0:21:07 GMT

Some bosnian War songs
Since they became somewhat popular on the internet in 2016/2017(?) many of them resurfaced, but probably some are still lost or will eventually go lost. Specially because some of them are very likely to get deleted by youtube, like it happened with Kocayine several times, which is the biggest channel on youtube when it comes to Yugoslav Wars music and stuff.

Edit: Actually this applies to any war song on youtube.

Last Edit: Sept 13, 2020 0:35:38 GMT by gabas

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Media we have a very strong feeling will go lost? Sept 13, 2020 2:26:07 GMT

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Post by zxtheproto on Sept 13, 2020 2:26:07 GMT

I know there's a lot of talk going around right now about preserving the DMT discography - there's been some legal threats against them recently. Small label artists on Bandcamp and other independent services have a strong risk of their content disappearing, especially artists who heavily utilize sampling in their music.

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Media we have a very strong feeling will go lost? Sept 13, 2020 5:03:57 GMT

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Post by GrigioGuy on Sept 13, 2020 5:03:57 GMT

Sept 13, 2020 2:26:07 GMT zxtheproto said:

I know there's a lot of talk going around right now about preserving the DMT discography - there's been some legal threats against them recently. Small label artists on Bandcamp and other independent services have a strong risk of their content disappearing, especially artists who heavily utilize sampling in their music.

Who is DMT?

zxtheproto New Member Posts: 12	Media we have a very strong feeling will go lost? Sept 13, 2020 20:39:31 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Back to Top Post by zxtheproto on Sept 13, 2020 20:39:31 GMT It's a vaporwave label - they're known for the artists Dan Mason and Haircuts for Men, among others.

Media we have a very strong feeling will go lost?

Post by chara on Aug 23, 2016 6:57:09 GMT

Post by exmember on Aug 23, 2016 23:15:00 GMT

Post by Lucy on Aug 23, 2016 23:30:57 GMT

Post by Spoofer on Aug 23, 2016 23:46:47 GMT

Post by MortoQueiba on Aug 24, 2016 2:33:20 GMT

Post by theCarbonFreeze on Dec 12, 2016 5:17:04 GMT

Post by virtuaboi on Dec 12, 2016 6:36:38 GMT

Post by theCarbonFreeze on Dec 12, 2016 13:38:05 GMT

Post by justremembered on Sept 10, 2020 0:16:54 GMT

Post by alexpine on Sept 10, 2020 1:20:26 GMT

Post by GrigioGuy on Sept 12, 2020 21:31:43 GMT

Post by gabas on Sept 13, 2020 0:21:07 GMT

Post by zxtheproto on Sept 13, 2020 2:26:07 GMT

Post by GrigioGuy on Sept 13, 2020 5:03:57 GMT

Post by zxtheproto on Sept 13, 2020 20:39:31 GMT

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