Since Toy Story 4 is Out Now is a Good Time to Find the Original Version of Toy Story that Aired in Theaters, As Someone Born in 1997 i Wasn't Alive in the 90s Basicly Being Only 3 Years old Before 9/11 but From What i can Tell the Original Theatrical Release Had a Different Logo than the Home Release (Being Yellow, White and Red Instead of Blue Yellow and Red as Seen Today) Which was Seen in Some Trailers and Commercials and also Some of the Sound Effects Were Different than the Home Video Release Such as Woodys Voicebox and Buzz Lightyears Sound Chip Having a More Old School Sound to it and the Sound of the Plungers in the Scene Where Woodys Head gets Burned Being More Cartoony Also the Animation was Much More Lower Quality (Probably Comparable to Reboot on Steroids as this was 1992-1995 of Course) and the Soundtrack was More Dramatic Compared to the Home Release Which had a More Happy Soundtrack Will you Guys Take the Challenge to Help me Find this Lost Version of Toy Story
Last Edit: Jul 3, 2019 7:37:46 GMT by baliebox4916
I guess you're confusing the preliminary version shown in the trailer you posted, and the final version which is the one that was released in theaters and home media.
However, I still find interesting to see the preliminary version. I wish we can have some more footage of it.
The “lower quality animation” is due to that clip being sourced from a workprint. This is NOT a lost version of the movie. The final film that you can find on video is the one that was released in theaters. Every movie goes through several streamlining phases before everything is perfected for the final release. There’s no “alternate theatrical version”. What you’re seeing is pre-release material before the final film was completed and fully edited.
Last Edit: Jul 5, 2019 16:45:14 GMT by nostalgiaguy
I'm pretty sure the version in theaters is what we got on home video. Logic says that the logo would have been finalized by then since it was consistent in most promotional materials (though most notably theatrical posters). Unless someone specifically remembers the logo being different in the film, that sounds like conjecture if you didn't personally witness it. Knowing the process for re-compositing a scene, it would be a lot of work for a minor detail.
On a related note, most people don't know that the original theatrical version of Toy Story is NOT available anymore. The entire film was re-rendered in a higher resolution for the 3D re-release in 2009. This version then became the default for all home releases afterwards in 2010. For purists, it's not the same thing original audiences saw; the crispness and high resolution detail wasn't there originally. There's also a few animation errors now present in the new version. And my personal pet peeve is the addition of a generic Disney logo replacing the one Pixar made specifically for the film, which cuts out a portion of the score and does not transition well into the film. By all accounts, the best source for the original theatrical version would be the 10th Anniversary DVD from 2005.
It's a long shot, but I'd love to see the original theatrical version as a bonus feature on a Blu-Ray release just so we can see it at its native resolution (1,536 x 922). Of course that's pretty close to DVD resolution, but still not quite.
I'm pretty sure the version in theaters is what we got on home video. Logic says that the logo would have been finalized by then since it was consistent in most promotional materials (though most notably theatrical posters). Unless someone specifically remembers the logo being different in the film, that sounds like conjecture if you didn't personally witness it. Knowing the process for re-compositing a scene, it would be a lot of work for a minor detail.
On a related note, most people don't know that the original theatrical version of Toy Story is NOT available anymore. The entire film was re-rendered in a higher resolution for the 3D re-release in 2009. This version then became the default for all home releases afterwards in 2010. For purists, it's not the same thing original audiences saw; the crispness and high resolution detail wasn't there originally. There's also a few animation errors now present in the new version. And my personal pet peeve is the addition of a generic Disney logo replacing the one Pixar made specifically for the film, which cuts out a portion of the score and does not transition well into the film. By all accounts, the best source for the original theatrical version would be the 10th Anniversary DVD from 2005.
It's a long shot, but I'd love to see the original theatrical version as a bonus feature on a Blu-Ray release just so we can see it at its native resolution (1,536 x 922). Of course that's pretty close to DVD resolution, but still not quite.
Thank you, nostalgiaguy, this had completely escaped me! I suppose this is another original source of Toy Story to consider. The look of computer generated films was completely different than today with digital projectors only really coming into play with Attack of the Clones in 2002.
I always remembered how the colors were somehow different in the VHS and supplemental materials like books. Being mastered on film probably had a lot to do with that. I will say that the UHD Blu-Ray release actually comes closer to the color timing of the film negative versus the digital file, not sure whether that was intentional or not. Either way, my stance on film preservation is that the version that made the largest impact should be the priority in preserving. For what Toy Story accomplished in its historic theatrical run and initial home video release, I think the film master deserves more recognition.
Like nostalgiaguy said here, there is no original theatrical version of the movie, because the video linked/embedded below the official trailer is actually a pre-release workprint laying out parts of the movie that haven't yet been fully rendered in CGI.
While it's true that several animated films go through constant changes during development (with Disney's 2000 animated film The Emperor's New Groove arguably being the most famous example, as it changed from being a serious drama in its original form as Kingdom of the Sun to being more of a silly buddy comedy seen today), nothing shown in the pre-release workprint of Disney and Pixar's Toy Story indicates that it will be different in any form from the movie that was finally finished and released in theaters.
Despite the frustrations of normal day life we go through, the best thing to do about it is still being happy for our friends and family.
Apparently there’s more footage of the Black Friday Reel than what was released but Pixar is too ashamed to release the whole thing.
There's bits and pieces in a few documentaries. I don't think they're ashamed to release it, but it's more uncommon to release an entire film in just storyboards. Nothing from the "Black Friday" era was animated, it was only storyboarded in preproduction but also with the intent to pitch to Disney. While there's an abundance of scratch voices, it's interesting that development had already advanced to the point of some cast members recording dialouge (Tim Allen, Tom Hanks, R. Lee Ermey).
Also, it's deceiving to think that there's one lost cut of the film. The changes to the film came piece by piece. There was actually no less than three abandoned opening sequences for the film that were scripted.
So in terms of what we're missing from the Black Friday reel, probably not much of note. The main special feature presentation basically represented the worst of it, which is probably why it's so infamous now.
The original 35mm film is for sale on eBay www.ebay.com/itm/185700414684 Unfortunately I don't have the means to coordinate a preservation/restoration effort since I don't know the first thing about scanning 35mm film.
The original 35mm film is for sale on eBay www.ebay.com/itm/185700414684 Unfortunately I don't have the means to coordinate a preservation/restoration effort since I don't know the first thing about scanning 35mm film.
You may want to post that on the OriginalTrilogy thread if you’re a member there, they’d definitely be interested and could help purchase and preserve it.
The original 35mm film is for sale on eBay www.ebay.com/itm/185700414684 Unfortunately I don't have the means to coordinate a preservation/restoration effort since I don't know the first thing about scanning 35mm film.
You may want to post that on the OriginalTrilogy thread if you’re a member there, they’d definitely be interested and could help purchase and preserve it.
Way ahead of you but it's pretty dead there lately.
Isn't the laserdisc of this movie literally just a scan of a reel of the theatrical release?
They're both struck from the same film master. They're the same generation removed, except it goes without saying that home video is far lower quality.