Post by Moodiecitymadman on Jul 5, 2016 21:22:41 GMT
I'd say contacting Lorenzo is our last chance at a lead unless something else happens which is certainly not out of the question. If Lorenzo refuses to cooperate with us, I'd say we've reached another dead end.
I was listening to the recorded calls you guys made and it sounded like he was kind of lying on his feet, or lying on the spot, but this is just me thinking aloud. I've had a few students who've come up with bullshit on the spot.
Now we don't know if he's lying, but we shouldn't rule it out. He could've been just trying to cover his ass because we pushed him into a corner. And we did give him time to call back in one of the many calls to explain ADWSS to us so in that time, it's possible that he came up with bullshit.
As for the films existence, I don't think we'll ever know if the OG film ever existed or not. I hate to say this but only time will tell. How much time? Who knows. Something big could happen tomorrow for all I know. The search for this film is and always has been like a loop. Going round and round starting off where we were before hand. I think this search won't end because it's scientifically impossible for this thing to end. It's a movement that will outlast the original search party weather we stay or not. Until something solid is found, this search will not stop.
So in the end, the search goes on.
Happy hunting and let's find this piece of shit weather it takes months or years.
But he didn't even have to call back or talk about it.
If the OG film existed it should've turned up by now, but that still doesn't rule it out. Look at the Mallow plush thread; two of those have turned up in the last 15 years.
We talked to Lorenzo, but did it really solve anything? I don't think anyone's satisfied. At least he talked though, and was very cooperative considering the circumstances; suspiciously cooperative...
Jul 5, 2016 12:26:58 GMT -4 allanbuzzy said: I think we should just close up shop. The search is physically impossible as the existence is hard to find. If we continue now, we will get nowhere. If you think people say "oh, I have a copy of ADWSS, I can just send it to you via email", it's likely a troll, a myth. It was planned but never released. No more.
I just think the fate of this thing is in Lorenzo's hands, and all we can do is strategically plan when to call him; I honestly think it's too soon right now. It's such a fragile thing; one false move and we could scare Lorenzo away like a wild deer.
Say the Kickstarter goes up; how would we even know about it? The total shadiness of Lorenzo/Reagal; this is just the oddest thing ever. It's just like some kids paying a convict to make a shitty bootleg movie about a copyrighted character that they know he won't even make.
There was one person who cared enough about this piece of shit to get everyone involved; who was that person? Anyone else would've looked at the Amazon listing and said "Who gives a fuck?". But it's one of those things that's intriguing upon second glance.
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I'm not dropping it until we actually confront Lorenzo in person and interrogate him but that's illegal. Lorenzo sounded like he was prepared for this as again he could've been lying but still sound co-operative
As one of the previous posters said they contacted one of the actors and he yelled at them on the phone, said actor probably contacted Lorenzo to warn him, also sorry if I forgot the exact call where they yelled, but it's on a previous page
Slightly off topic, but I have to give y'all props. I've seen manhunts for missing people and criminals give less effort than the search for this movie, that might not even exist mind you.
This (other than El Apostol and the Christine Chubbuck vid) has been the most interesting search/lost media item I've come across. I don't think it's time to give up just yet, but if Holley doesn't comply or even answer, might be time to wrap it up.
It is sad to see the hunt end up like this but I can't imag how some feel since they have put s lotote time into the search than I ever could have. Though everyone keeps bringing up Lorenzo but he's not the only one involved. Victor Yackoff is kind of like Holley 's right hand man and I have his address. If we keep calling Lorenzo and he stops answering than Yackoff is out best bet, if people still want to keep searching that is.
Based on that call, I'd say Lorenzo Holley is a small part in a series of producers and film makers for ADWSS. Remember he's only the head of Reagal, so he may not be directly involved with the producers of ADWSS who are planning this crowd funding effort.
I know I've said that he's shady and the fact that he was arrested adds to our suspicions, but I think we should at least give him time to see if we can trust him. I mean the guy runs a grocery store and a film company. I'm sure he has other things on his mind. Does he appear shady? Yes, but anyone can appear be shady. Hillary Clinton appears shady for god's sakes. The fact the he's actually cooperating with us instead of telling us off makes me think that maybe he's telling the truth and we should at least give him time. Like I said, he has two businesses. I'm sure he's busy.
With that, I'd say if we don't here anything by the end of July, we contact him again and see where we go from there. Maybe ask him about the producers of ADWSS.
Post by mrpenguinpants on Jul 7, 2016 22:38:31 GMT
Hey Ongoing Mysteries, would you mind asking questions about the Kickstarter? Questions about the rewards and the donate goals. But you might wanna wait until you ask so you don't scare him away.