The thing about the English language is that it's a Frankenstein hybrid fusion of Greek, Latin, and German with bits and pieces of French, Spanish, middle eastern languages, and hints of various other languages from around the world all mixed together into what it has become today.
I remember teaching English grammar/spelling patterns that got broken every other word/phrase/sentence. It was bonkers. Like "Here's the rule, and now here's every exception TO said rule." Like pronunciation and word formation. I would teach Greek/Latin roots which helped but even then...exceptions, exceptions EVERYWHERE. And sorry that other word is pronounced this way because we took it from ____ language, but oh, now there's another exception to that sound XD
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English is my first language and it still confuses the hell out of me.
Thank god for spelling and grammar checks because without it I would be an incoherent mess.
I am also glad that the internet has normalize using some broken English and alternative dialects. In the early internet days people were way to obsessed with having perfect grammar. I know that sort of a side effect of English speaking schools, I remember being bullied by kids if I mispronounced a word.
Also adding...
American English also includes some words borrowed from Native Americans, which is why we have stuff like Arkansas and Kansas. These are both borrowed words. The reason why Arkansas is pronounced the way it is is because the area has a lot of French immigrants.
I am an English-first fellow & I REFUSE to believe that there is such a thing as "perfect grammar" in English. Oh & as for mispronounciations? Well, IMO it tends to be quite the gamble on how to pronounce them. For instance, "niche" is supposed to just be "neesh", but I say "neesh-EY" because of the E at the end, especially since the E in "cliche" is said in that word.
Oh & in a rather hilarious fashion, another language that English has as a connected ancestor is Japanese. No, seriously. It basically means that an English speaking person would have an easier time learning Japanese than a Japanese speaking person would learning English.
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Oh & in a rather hilarious fashion, another language that English has as a connected ancestor is Japanese. No, seriously. It basically means that an English speaking person would have an easier time learning Japanese than a Japanese speaking person would learning English.
I hate to be that guy, but those are loanwords, which are a very different thing. Ancestrally, English is part of the Indo-European group, and Japanese is in the.. well, the Japonic group. None of the languages native to the Japanese islands are conclusively known to share common ancestors with languages that are not native to said islands. Since we're citing Wikipedia here, may I point you to Classification of the Japonic languages?
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Oh & in a rather hilarious fashion, another language that English has as a connected ancestor is Japanese. No, seriously. It basically means that an English speaking person would have an easier time learning Japanese than a Japanese speaking person would learning English.
I hate to be that guy, but those are loanwords, which are a very different thing. Ancestrally, English is part of the Indo-European group, and Japanese is in the.. well, the Japonic group. None of the languages native to the Japanese islands are conclusively known to share common ancestors with languages that are not native to said islands. Since we're citing Wikipedia here, may I point you to Classification of the Japonic languages?
THIS.
A lot of those Japanese words used in English were introduced in the last 50 years.
If anything, is more common to see the opposite with Japanese using English words for things but often spelled out phonetically.
Oh & in a rather hilarious fashion, another language that English has as a connected ancestor is Japanese. No, seriously. It basically means that an English speaking person would have an easier time learning Japanese than a Japanese speaking person would learning English.
I hate to be that guy, but those are loanwords, which are a very different thing. Ancestrally, English is part of the Indo-European group, and Japanese is in the.. well, the Japonic group. None of the languages native to the Japanese islands are conclusively known to share common ancestors with languages that are not native to said islands. Since we're citing Wikipedia here, may I point you to Classification of the Japonic languages?
...why was I on Wikipedia again? Should I just stick to whatever Britannica or TVTropes say?
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I have a degree in ESL/Linguistics and English language education, and I STILL mess up English like all the time. Plus, having studied other languages in depth, English...just doesn't make a lot of sense. The patterns are nonsensical, and the order is odd. It's an unholy child of Latin, ancient Greek, French, and German (among other tongues) all mashed together in a stew pot.
Yeah, English is basically a conglomeration of almost every other language on earth, and it's supposed to make sense? No way.
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Post by extremewreck2000 on Jun 5, 2024 3:07:00 GMT
I just realized why my English is so absurd & confusing to the levels of alien geometries: I basically went through a whole heapton of the internet, video games & the like that have caused me to build up a GIANT vocabulary... but my autistic brain would sometimes not understand it & therefore would render it in a weird way.
Dreams are boundless, imaginations are infinite, space is a multi-directional spiral & Akazukin ChaCha is my favorite anime
