insertuserhere Yeah, Gender Line Extended is definitely unrelated. I think Children of Loneliness was probably released after 1935, the year they had it registered for copyright, and the 1934 was a typo. 1937 makes the most sense.
We know the movie was available in 1947, when Lisa Ben reviewed it in her magazine Vice Versa. Unfortunately, there is no record of where the magazine was written.
Here's where the title "The Third Sex" might have come from.
I got a reply from Video Out: "Thanks for getting in touch. Don't know much about Jewel Productions, I'd guess that it belonged to WG. The film rights as far as distribution is concerned, are with Video Out, but it's not an exclusive agreement or anything. We just have the works in our archive/library. The rights holders are between her kids. Hope that helps, and let me know if you have more questions.
All the best, Casey"
The obituary in the Trans Alliance Society also mentions that she had children.
"Weekend? It's Monday already."
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insertuserhere Yeah, Gender Line Extended is definitely unrelated. I think Children of Loneliness was probably released after 1935, the year they had it registered for copyright, and the 1934 was a typo. 1937 makes the most sense.
We know the movie was available in 1947, when Lisa Ben reviewed it in her magazine Vice Versa. Unfortunately, there is no record of where the magazine was written.
Here's where the title "The Third Sex" might have come from.
I got a reply from Video Out: "Thanks for getting in touch. Don't know much about Jewel Productions, I'd guess that it belonged to WG. The film rights as far as distribution is concerned, are with Video Out, but it's not an exclusive agreement or anything. We just have the works in our archive/library. The rights holders are between her kids. Hope that helps, and let me know if you have more questions.
All the best, Casey"
The obituary in the Trans Alliance Society also mentions that she had children.
The LMW page says that book inspired this movie, and who do you mean had children?
Post by billyaanderson on Jun 24, 2018 6:49:50 GMT
I've read through this thread as carefully as I can, and I don't think that anyone posting to it has actually located where a print of Children of Loneliness might be.
I think you film detectives looking for this lost film might beneift from searching the holdings of the Kinsey Institute:
Those looking for a similar lost film from the 1970s might have some success in their quest, and it's possible that those looking for Children of Loneliness might have similar results.
A quick Advanced Search for any of the 3 names gives nothing. Any other database to search?
Sorry you didn't get any results searching the Kinsey listings. They are the only film place I can think of that might have a print.
I don't know the exact date of when the Kinsey Institute was organized and when they started collecting films, but I think Dr. Kinsey published his first report on Sexual Behavior in the late 1940s, and he approached Kenneth Anger to buy a print of the film Fireworks, made in the late 1940s, so, with Children of Lonliness still being in release in the late 1940s (If I am correct in my reading of the previous pages of this thread), that is why I thought the Kinsey Institute would be a good place to check.
insertuserhere Yeah, Gender Line Extended is definitely unrelated. I think Children of Loneliness was probably released after 1935, the year they had it registered for copyright, and the 1934 was a typo. 1937 makes the most sense.
We know the movie was available in 1947, when Lisa Ben reviewed it in her magazine Vice Versa. Unfortunately, there is no record of where the magazine was written.
Here's where the title "The Third Sex" might have come from.
I got a reply from Video Out: "Thanks for getting in touch. Don't know much about Jewel Productions, I'd guess that it belonged to WG. The film rights as far as distribution is concerned, are with Video Out, but it's not an exclusive agreement or anything. We just have the works in our archive/library. The rights holders are between her kids. Hope that helps, and let me know if you have more questions.
All the best, Casey"
The obituary in the Trans Alliance Society also mentions that she had children.
The LMW page says that book inspired this movie, and who do you mean had children?
W.G. Burnham spawned at least 1 child, but she's not related to the search.
"Weekend? It's Monday already."
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Post by thegreatzoinks on Jun 27, 2018 23:55:56 GMT
If you guys want another name to put in if you wanna search it in libraries, I remember seeing it being refered to under the name "strange lovers" a bunch of times when I was doing research (not a huge thing but it's good to keep this other alternate name in mind too)
insertuserhere Yeah, Gender Line Extended is definitely unrelated. I think Children of Loneliness was probably released after 1935, the year they had it registered for copyright, and the 1934 was a typo. 1937 makes the most sense.
We know the movie was available in 1947, when Lisa Ben reviewed it in her magazine Vice Versa. Unfortunately, there is no record of where the magazine was written.
Here's where the title "The Third Sex" might have come from.
I got a reply from Video Out: "Thanks for getting in touch. Don't know much about Jewel Productions, I'd guess that it belonged to WG. The film rights as far as distribution is concerned, are with Video Out, but it's not an exclusive agreement or anything. We just have the works in our archive/library. The rights holders are between her kids. Hope that helps, and let me know if you have more questions.
All the best, Casey"
The obituary in the Trans Alliance Society also mentions that she had children.
I remember my late Grandfather mentioning something about watching it when he was 16 years old back in 1947 but apart from that i don't know much and i can't ask him since he passed away at the end of January this year although if i had known around 8 or 9 months ago then i could have provided more information about it. Altough if you can find a way to bring back the dead without turning them into Zombie's then i'm open to asking him about it.
insertuserhere Yeah, Gender Line Extended is definitely unrelated. I think Children of Loneliness was probably released after 1935, the year they had it registered for copyright, and the 1934 was a typo. 1937 makes the most sense.
We know the movie was available in 1947, when Lisa Ben reviewed it in her magazine Vice Versa. Unfortunately, there is no record of where the magazine was written.
Here's where the title "The Third Sex" might have come from.
I got a reply from Video Out: "Thanks for getting in touch. Don't know much about Jewel Productions, I'd guess that it belonged to WG. The film rights as far as distribution is concerned, are with Video Out, but it's not an exclusive agreement or anything. We just have the works in our archive/library. The rights holders are between her kids. Hope that helps, and let me know if you have more questions.
All the best, Casey"
The obituary in the Trans Alliance Society also mentions that she had children.
I remember my late Grandfather mentioning something about watching it when he was 16 years old back in 1947 but apart from that i don't know much and i can't ask him since he passed away at the end of January this year although if i had known around 8 or 9 months ago then i could have provided more information about it. Altough if you can find a way to bring back the dead without turning them into Zombie's then i'm open to asking him about it.
Ouija board?
In all seriousness, if you know where he was living in 1947, that might give us some clues as to where the movie could have ended up.
"Weekend? It's Monday already."
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I remember my late Grandfather mentioning something about watching it when he was 16 years old back in 1947 but apart from that i don't know much and i can't ask him since he passed away at the end of January this year although if i had known around 8 or 9 months ago then i could have provided more information about it. Altough if you can find a way to bring back the dead without turning them into Zombie's then i'm open to asking him about it.
Ouija board?
In all seriousness, if you know where he was living in 1947, that might give us some clues as to where the movie could have ended up.
I remember that he said that until is early to mid 20s he lived in Liverpool but i'm not sure whereabouts there and i've never been there
I remember that he said that until is early to mid 20s he lived in Liverpool but i'm not sure whereabouts there and i've never been there
Liverpool, England, or Liverpool, Somewhere in the Americas? Either way, that's good to know.
There's a Liverpool in America? but the Liverpool is England, Liverpool but because of how long it's been and how big it is (I went there last Thursday visitng family (DIdn't mention this out of respect him), but if I can find out what street he grew up on that can possibly help massivly with the search.
Liverpool, England, or Liverpool, Somewhere in the Americas? Either way, that's good to know.
There's a Liverpool in America? but the Liverpool is England, Liverpool but because of how long it's been and how big it is (I went there last Thursday visitng family (DIdn't mention this out of respect him), but if I can find out what street he grew up on that can possibly help massivly with the search.
There are many towns called Liverpool in North and South America. I thought the film had not left the United States, but now we know that there may have been a copy in the UK. The exact street doesn't matter so much. We're looking for the cinema that would have shown the movie.
Could you get access to microfilms of newspapers or newspaper archives from the time period? Right now, the best bet is to see if we can find articles or advertisements for the film. We also might want to try checking the archives for other big UK cities. Cambridge might have shown it because it was a gay haven at the time.
Oh, and according to Wikipedia, Lisa Ben lived in Los Angeles.
Edythe D. Eyde (November 7, 1921[1] – December 22, 2015) better known by her pen name Lisa Ben, was an American editor, author, and songwriter. She created the first known lesbian publication in the world, Vice Versa. Ben produced the magazine for a year and distributed it locally in Los Angeles, California in the late 1940s.