Okay, I went to the building. Its partially a recording studio now. There was no doorman so I just walked in and into the stairway.
Also since there was no doorman, there wasnt anyone to ask about anything. I walked up and down the stairwell opening every unlocked door. Nothing.
I even went to the basement, there were several locked doors, and some of the locks looked old. I chickened out and ventured no further because there were security cameras in the other parts of the basement.
Its possible that maybe there could be some sort of locked up storage unit down there, but I’ll have to contact the landlord or something...I don’t want to get caught breaking and entering into a closet.
Okay, I went to the building. Its partially a recording studio now. There was no doorman so I just walked in and into the stairway.
Also since there was no doorman, there wasnt anyone to ask about anything. I walked up and down the stairwell opening every unlocked door. Nothing.
I even went to the basement, there were several locked doors, and some of the locks looked old. I chickened out and ventured no further because there were security cameras in the other parts of the basement.
Its possible that maybe there could be some sort of locked up storage unit down there, but I’ll have to contact the landlord or something...I don’t want to get caught breaking and entering into a closet.
Would Jewel Productions still be there just because the building is? Or could it be in some storage area?
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Okay, I went to the building. Its partially a recording studio now. There was no doorman so I just walked in and into the stairway.
Also since there was no doorman, there wasnt anyone to ask about anything. I walked up and down the stairwell opening every unlocked door. Nothing.
I even went to the basement, there were several locked doors, and some of the locks looked old. I chickened out and ventured no further because there were security cameras in the other parts of the basement.
Its possible that maybe there could be some sort of locked up storage unit down there, but I’ll have to contact the landlord or something...I don’t want to get caught breaking and entering into a closet.
Would Jewel Productions still be there just because the building is? Or could it be in some storage area?
I was just looking for general clues, and maybe an old closet thats been locked since the 40s...
I've found some clues for what could have happened to Jewel Productions. The moviestaff website listed a "Jewel Productions Inc." (which could be the Jewel Productions that made the film), so I searched for that and found a book on the American film industry. The entry for Jewel Productions Inc. says that, in 1919, they "consolidated [their] offices with those of Universal", who would later release films under the Jewel name. It listed as a source a film trade journal called The Moving Picture World, so I went to the article (page 1206), where it said that Jewel was working with a "Universal Film Manufacturing Company", which turned into the Universal Pictures we know and love. It's possible that they might have something from the film, assuming it's the same Jewel Productions Inc.
I've found some clues for what could have happened to Jewel Productions. The moviestaff website listed a "Jewel Productions Inc." (which could be the Jewel Productions that made the film), so I searched for that and found a book on the American film industry. The entry for Jewel Productions Inc. says that, in 1919, they "consolidated [their] offices with those of Universal", who would later release films under the Jewel name. It listed as a source a film trade journal called The Moving Picture World, so I went to the article (page 1206), where it said that Jewel was working with a "Universal Film Manufacturing Company", which turned into the Universal Pictures we know and love. It's possible that they might have something from the film, assuming it's the same Jewel Productions Inc.
This is a different Jewel Productions for sure, but great searching! The whole "Universal-Jewel" thing was discarded in the mid-20s, a decade before Children of Loneliness.
What I can't find though, is whoever owns the building 723 7th Ave, where the other "Jewel" offices were, and see if we can contact them and find more insight.
I've found some clues for what could have happened to Jewel Productions. The moviestaff website listed a "Jewel Productions Inc." (which could be the Jewel Productions that made the film), so I searched for that and found a book on the American film industry. The entry for Jewel Productions Inc. says that, in 1919, they "consolidated [their] offices with those of Universal", who would later release films under the Jewel name. It listed as a source a film trade journal called The Moving Picture World, so I went to the article (page 1206), where it said that Jewel was working with a "Universal Film Manufacturing Company", which turned into the Universal Pictures we know and love. It's possible that they might have something from the film, assuming it's the same Jewel Productions Inc.
This is a different Jewel Productions for sure, but great searching! The whole "Universal-Jewel" thing was discarded in the mid-20s, a decade before Children of Loneliness.
What I can't find though, is whoever owns the building 723 7th Ave, where the other "Jewel" offices were, and see if we can contact them and find more insight.
Darn, I thought I was onto something. Oh well! There's something about that building though that's making me uneasy. The fact that there's no doorman in a building right next to Time Square is bizarre enough, but that recording studio (Quad Recording Studios) apparently did work for artists like Beyonce and Coldplay, so you'd think there'd be some security. I even found an article about Tupac Shakur getting shot in there, so it's not like they can rely on a perfectly safe track record. As for who owns it, I looked through the property records, and it appears the building is owned by "721 Borrower LLC". They're based in Delaware, but that's all I can find on them.
I think that in order to find this, we ought to ask ourselves what kind of cinema would have aired this at the time. We can guess that it would not have been a mainstream film. Would some documentary film festivals have shown this? If we can find an old listing maybe we can find a theater that still has an old copy!
I think that in order to find this, we ought to ask ourselves what kind of cinema would have aired this at the time. We can guess that it would not have been a mainstream film. Would some documentary film festivals have shown this? If we can find an old listing maybe we can find a theater that still has an old copy!
I don't believe this is a documentary, so it would not have played at any documentary film festivals. One of the articles referenced on the Wiki page did say it "played in dingy dives specializing in adult-only films that neither applied for nor would be granted Production Code certificates". However, it's difficult to say if the theaters are still around or if they still have any copies. First, our good friend nitrate film could come in to play, so the film could have naturally deteriorated over time (like many, many other films made during this period). Second, there are probably very few theaters from this time still around, since a dingy adult-only movie theater seems like the type of thing that doesn't always stay around for decades. And third, I don't believe we know how many copies of the film were made, so we don't know if the theaters were allowed to keep the copy they showed. At the beginning of the industry, films would "tour around", so once the run is up at one theater, the people putting on the tour would take the film with them to show at the next theater, kind of like a play or band on tour. I don't know if it was still as common place in the 30's, but it's still possible a smaller production would do this for financial reasons.
I think that in order to find this, we ought to ask ourselves what kind of cinema would have aired this at the time. We can guess that it would not have been a mainstream film. Would some documentary film festivals have shown this? If we can find an old listing maybe we can find a theater that still has an old copy!
I don't believe this is a documentary, so it would not have played at any documentary film festivals. One of the articles referenced on the Wiki page did say it "played in dingy dives specializing in adult-only films that neither applied for nor would be granted Production Code certificates". However, it's difficult to say if the theaters are still around or if they still have any copies. First, our good friend nitrate film could come in to play, so the film could have naturally deteriorated over time (like many, many other films made during this period). Second, there are probably very few theaters from this time still around, since a dingy adult-only movie theater seems like the type of thing that doesn't always stay around for decades. And third, I don't believe we know how many copies of the film were made, so we don't know if the theaters were allowed to keep the copy they showed. At the beginning of the industry, films would "tour around", so once the run is up at one theater, the people putting on the tour would take the film with them to show at the next theater, kind of like a play or band on tour. I don't know if it was still as common place in the 30's, but it's still possible a smaller production would do this for financial reasons.
I would guess maybe we could locate this in a smaller archive or collection that specializes in cult films or film considered to be partially “educational” as this was a drama made to also “educate the public”. Theaters arent the way to go.
I don't believe this is a documentary, so it would not have played at any documentary film festivals. One of the articles referenced on the Wiki page did say it "played in dingy dives specializing in adult-only films that neither applied for nor would be granted Production Code certificates". However, it's difficult to say if the theaters are still around or if they still have any copies. First, our good friend nitrate film could come in to play, so the film could have naturally deteriorated over time (like many, many other films made during this period). Second, there are probably very few theaters from this time still around, since a dingy adult-only movie theater seems like the type of thing that doesn't always stay around for decades. And third, I don't believe we know how many copies of the film were made, so we don't know if the theaters were allowed to keep the copy they showed. At the beginning of the industry, films would "tour around", so once the run is up at one theater, the people putting on the tour would take the film with them to show at the next theater, kind of like a play or band on tour. I don't know if it was still as common place in the 30's, but it's still possible a smaller production would do this for financial reasons.
I would guess maybe we could locate this in a smaller archive or collection that specializes in cult films or film considered to be partially “educational” as this was a drama made to also “educate the public”. Theaters arent the way to go.