Post by extremewreck2000 on Jan 11, 2024 1:47:43 GMT
Recently, a thread had popped up about the toughest lost media to preserve. That got me thinking... what about the toughest lost media to find at all? Like, I am NOT talking literally impossible cases, but instead NEAR impossible, but with a teency tiny chance of being found. Just said that to clear up on what I mean.
For me personally, it's lost media from places one would LEAST expect. I'm not talking like the Netherlands or Poland, nononono. I'm talking places like Greenland, Malawi, Honduras, Guam, Aruba, etc. The kind of places that just seem so unlikely & yet it's still possible that SOME lost media from such places exist & we may never know about most of them. It really shows just how HUGE this planet is.
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Alam Ara, a completely lost India talkie film from 1931 that is considered to be India's most important lost film. The prints of the film sadly didn't survive before the National Film Archive of India was founded, with only stills and posters being the only thing available.
Alam Ara, a completely lost India talkie film from 1931 that is considered to be India's most important lost film. The prints of the film sadly didn't survive before the National Film Archive of India was founded, with only stills and posters being the only thing available.
Good to know about, but I said NEAR impossible, not literally impossible.
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The Kappa Mikey pilot came to mind when I read your thread. Not going to explain it here but I do recommend watching both of LSuperSonicQ's video about that topic.
You should never underestimate the power of Bazinga.
Alam Ara, a completely lost India talkie film from 1931 that is considered to be India's most important lost film. The prints of the film sadly didn't survive before the National Film Archive of India was founded, with only stills and posters being the only thing available.
Good to know about, but I said NEAR impossible, not literally impossible.
Well if you’re talking about near-impossible then It’s definitely Slamfest 99 and Me and My Friends, we have lots of photos but every time we get close to finding them, it’s a dead end
Things that weren't well archived to begin with such as old local advertisements. Small towns, like my own, don't usually have great means of archiving. You're only hope is that someone out there recorded it by a shot in the dark or someone did happen to save it for whatever reason.
Something I'd like to see that will likely never be found are mid 2000s promos for Cartoon Network Latinoamerica in English. The only way to hear these is by setting your cable box's language to English or (in my case) your cable system having that as an alternate channel. I remember watching promos that could have never possibly aired in America due to context but noticing they were still being voiced in English by the normal people who would do VO for the channel at the time. I assume that they just recorded a huge amount of voice lines at once, even if they were intended for use for foreign versions of the channel.
Anyway, it's extremely unlikely that anything from this will ever emerge online because it's too niche. I legitimately think the odds of recordings existing at all are slim. There are so, so few cases of recordings of channels with alternate language options enabled. Sometimes it's been done to preserve a dub in recent years, but outside of that case, I can hardly think of an example.
Something I'd like to see that will likely never be found are mid 2000s promos for Cartoon Network Latinoamerica in English. The only way to hear these is by setting your cable box's language to English or (in my case) your cable system having that as an alternate channel. I remember watching promos that could have never possibly aired in America due to context but noticing they were still being voiced in English by the normal people who would do VO for the channel at the time. I assume that they just recorded a huge amount of voice lines at once, even if they were intended for use for foreign versions of the channel.
Anyway, it's extremely unlikely that anything from this will ever emerge online because it's too niche. I legitimately think the odds of recordings existing at all are slim. There are so, so few cases of recordings of channels with alternate language options enabled. Sometimes it's been done to preserve a dub in recent years, but outside of that case, I can hardly think of an example.
That was done in the case of the missing episodes of Out of Jimmy's Head which were recorded on Cartoon Network Germany which normally has German turned on by default but it has an English language option and thankfully the person recording the episodes overseas had all of them recorded in English(though a few on-screen text gags were in German).
Something I'd like to see that will likely never be found are mid 2000s promos for Cartoon Network Latinoamerica in English. The only way to hear these is by setting your cable box's language to English or (in my case) your cable system having that as an alternate channel. I remember watching promos that could have never possibly aired in America due to context but noticing they were still being voiced in English by the normal people who would do VO for the channel at the time. I assume that they just recorded a huge amount of voice lines at once, even if they were intended for use for foreign versions of the channel.
Anyway, it's extremely unlikely that anything from this will ever emerge online because it's too niche. I legitimately think the odds of recordings existing at all are slim. There are so, so few cases of recordings of channels with alternate language options enabled. Sometimes it's been done to preserve a dub in recent years, but outside of that case, I can hardly think of an example.
That was done in the case of the missing episodes of Out of Jimmy's Head which were recorded on Cartoon Network Germany which normally has German turned on by default but it has an English language option and thankfully the person recording the episodes overseas had all of them recorded in English(though a few on-screen text gags were in German).
That's like the only thing I can think of. When were those recorded? I actually never knew if it was a recording from that time or if Out of Jimmy's Head had been airing on CN Germany in 2023 and someone snapped up the episodes.
That was done in the case of the missing episodes of Out of Jimmy's Head which were recorded on Cartoon Network Germany which normally has German turned on by default but it has an English language option and thankfully the person recording the episodes overseas had all of them recorded in English(though a few on-screen text gags were in German).
That's like the only thing I can think of. When were those recorded? I actually never knew if it was a recording from that time or if Out of Jimmy's Head had been airing on CN Germany in 2023 and someone snapped up the episodes.
it was from a rerun but the guy didn't say when they were recorded.
Recently, a thread had popped up about the toughest lost media to preserve. That got me thinking... what about the toughest lost media to find at all? Like, I am NOT talking literally impossible cases, but instead NEAR impossible, but with a teency tiny chance of being found. Just said that to clear up on what I mean.
For me personally, it's lost media from places one would LEAST expect. I'm not talking like the Netherlands or Poland, nononono. I'm talking places like Greenland, Malawi, Honduras, Guam, Aruba, etc. The kind of places that just seem so unlikely & yet it's still possible that SOME lost media from such places exist & we may never know about most of them. It really shows just how HUGE this planet is.
This is what I came in to say, too.
We have a thread here somewhere started by users from Africa who are looking for help with archiving and documenting stuff from filmmakers in their countries. I want to say Uganda, Ghana, and Botswana are the main three that I've seen come up. I haven't read that thread in a while, but I want to say some, most, or all of it was likely shot on video and it's unclear how much of their filmography exists now since it's so poorly documented.
I've dropped some threads over the years with lost and incomplete media from different countries with their film firsts, like Japan's earliest content from the 1890s and Thailand's first horror film from the 1940s or so that only exists as a silent fragment now. I've been on the prowl for more content like that, but information is usually scarce and not as useful as I'd hope for. Even now, if it isn't horror centric, finding weird and random shit like EBS and radio broadcasts would be cool to dip my toes into..
Pika helped me archive a broadcast from McMurdo Station back in the 1980s (which was unavailable for a while due to copyright issues with the music) and the same channel that has it also managed to salvage a blurb of a broadcast from Greenland in the 1970s. I love stuff like that. Different channels still have stuff like that and the history of emergency broadcasts around the world and I can only imagine what other countries have stuff that's gone unnoticed or undocumented.
I'm going to be a little nondescript here, but searches where the method of archival either failed, was destroyed, or stolen. Studio fires, hard drives getting stolen or end up crashing, and cloud services disappearing.
A stolen film reel I'd argue is more likely to be recovered than a stolen hard drive, which I'd assume the hard drive is usually wiped in that case. Also if a video was not archived on YouTube, and the person who did the copyright claim is gone, then the video is nonexistent.
I'm going to be a little nondescript here, but searches where the method of archival either failed, was destroyed, or stolen. Studio fires, hard drives getting stolen or end up crashing, and cloud services disappearing.
A stolen film reel I'd argue is more likely to be recovered than a stolen hard drive, which I'd assume the hard drive is usually wiped in that case. Also if a video was not archived on YouTube, and the person who did the copyright claim is gone, then the video is nonexistent.
"Nondescript" would not be the word or phrase I would use to describe what you consider the hardest lost media to find, but moreso "out of touch".
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