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Starting this up. I was thinking earlier about lost books. Not knocking them, but they are very difficult to preserve. For lost films and tape and stuff, there are plenty of people that can scan those, and may even do color correction and such themselves. Books are a whole 'nother can of worms. It's a heap of trouble to try to accurately scan every page of a book without damaging the physical object!! Besides, it ain't all that likely for a whole book scan (of over 100 pages) to just show up online. I oughta know - I've tried it a few times myself. Newspapers / one-sheets are fine, cause those are meant to be separate.

What do you all think, though?

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Toughest Lost Media to Preserve Nov 21, 2023 0:26:05 GMT forlornjackalope and extremewreck2000 like this

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Post by rowler on Nov 21, 2023 0:26:05 GMT

I used to work doing 8mm and 16mm film archiving. If the film gets too brittle and warped, there is nothing you can do to save it. We had have had film just fall apart.

If film is taken care of and stored in a dry environment, it will be OK. I remember seeings stuff from the 1930s that ran through the machines just fine. Water damage is usually what will destroy a film reel.

Old undeveloped film reels is also very difficult. Most places don't do that anymore. And there is also a slim chance that the film will have anything on it due to the chemicals breaking down over time.

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Nov 20, 2023 22:43:44 GMT Springy said:

I'd say about anything that is online, even the largest archival efforts to preserve websites can't get everything

Yeah and it's always crushing when you go back to preserve something and it's just gone. I'm in this position right now with a massive Buck-Tick website a fan and translator in the industry had been running for years.

She had anything and everything you can think of related to them translated. Almost all of their songs with lyrics (in the original Japanese, "romaji", English, and some cases, Spanish and Portuguese), information about the band members other side projects and collaborations, their books (as far back as the early 90s) and interviews, guides for international fans traveling to and from Japan (and how to get merch if you're outside the country), magazine pressings and scans (especially the Fish-Tankers exclusive content), blog updates about what the band is up to with their tour schedules and interviews, and so on. She was also super cool about talking with other fans through e-mails, too.

Just knowing all of that is gone unless she can get it back (I haven't heard from her in two or so years) absolutely sucks because I don't know of any other fan websites that were as extensive as hers. Nearly 35 years or so of pure history - just gone like that.

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Nov 16, 2023 5:37:55 GMT lrminji523 said:

Starting this up. I was thinking earlier about lost books. Not knocking them, but they are very difficult to preserve. For lost films and tape and stuff, there are plenty of people that can scan those, and may even do color correction and such themselves. Books are a whole 'nother can of worms. It's a heap of trouble to try to accurately scan every page of a book without damaging the physical object!! Besides, it ain't all that likely for a whole book scan (of over 100 pages) to just show up online. I oughta know - I've tried it a few times myself. Newspapers / one-sheets are fine, cause those are meant to be separate.

What do you all think, though?

I feel you on the book thing, i've scanned some tie-in novels to California Dreams and Saved by the Bell and I have to use a heavy book to weigh down the lid of my scanner so that it captures all of the pages accurately, scanning is in general a tedious process(though it's a great opportunity for me to catch up on podcasts).

Old tapes can be risky to scan, Media Garage says he has all of the unaired episodes of the short-lived Alyssa Milano sitcom "Romantically Challenged" but they are all on old tapes that he has to be very careful in ripping so they don't get damaged.

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Nov 22, 2023 3:38:08 GMT lostdaisy77 said:

Anything related to Disney, Viacom or any other major company that copyright strikes or cease and desist anything that might hint that belongs to them.

Except Cousin Skeeter apparently, you can post full episodes of that and Nick won't give a shit, I found only one video of that show that was blocked and it's only blocked in certain countries which a VPN can get around anyways.

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Nov 22, 2023 6:04:03 GMT darkrage6 said:

Nov 22, 2023 3:38:08 GMT lostdaisy77 said:

Anything related to Disney, Viacom or any other major company that copyright strikes or cease and desist anything that might hint that belongs to them.

Except Cousin Skeeter apparently, you can post full episodes of that and Nick won't give a shit, I found only one video of that show that was blocked and it's only blocked in certain countries which a VPN can get around anyways.

There's a ton of odd subversions with those type of companies. The strangest modern one is that no one can really upload Blue Prints, but the Gibby pilot, Bubble Guppies pilot, and Noah Knows Best are totally fair. What kinda internal rules are in place for that?

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Nov 22, 2023 11:12:22 GMT Springy said:

Nov 22, 2023 6:04:03 GMT darkrage6 said:

Except Cousin Skeeter apparently, you can post full episodes of that and Nick won't give a shit, I found only one video of that show that was blocked and it's only blocked in certain countries which a VPN can get around anyways.

There's a ton of odd subversions with those type of companies. The strangest modern one is that no one can really upload Blue Prints, but the Gibby pilot, Bubble Guppies pilot, and Noah Knows Best are totally fair. What kinda internal rules are in place for that?

Yeah I checked the list of countries that one episode(Which is only a partial episode anyways so it feels like a weird one to arbitrarily block anyways)is blocked on and it includes all major countries except for Canada, why they made that one exception is bizarre.

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Nov 21, 2023 0:26:05 GMT rowler said:

I used to work doing 8mm and 16mm film archiving. If the film gets too brittle and warped, there is nothing you can do to save it. We had have had film just fall apart.

If film is taken care of and stored in a dry environment, it will be OK. I remember seeings stuff from the 1930s that ran through the machines just fine. Water damage is usually what will destroy a film reel.

Old undeveloped film reels is also very difficult. Most places don't do that anymore. And there is also a slim chance that the film will have anything on it due to the chemicals breaking down over time.

Yeah, you've got it there. Once the severe warping starts setting in, there ain't no scanner that can get it. And of course, there's plenty of obscure formats like 9.5mm or 18mm that are unusual to preserve. 35mm is also extremely flammable if not treated right. Thankfully, most people do.

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Nov 22, 2023 6:04:03 GMT darkrage6 said:

Nov 22, 2023 3:38:08 GMT lostdaisy77 said:

Anything related to Disney, Viacom or any other major company that copyright strikes or cease and desist anything that might hint that belongs to them.

Except Cousin Skeeter apparently, you can post full episodes of that and Nick won't give a shit, I found only one video of that show that was blocked and it's only blocked in certain countries which a VPN can get around anyways.

I think that there are some episodes of Jack's big music show (an Noggin/Nick jr show) that aren't blocked and haven't been for a couple of years. There isn't the theme song in the episodes tho. Also Making fiends haven't been blocked for over a decade.

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Nov 22, 2023 3:38:08 GMT lostdaisy77 said:

Anything related to Disney, Viacom or any other major company that copyright strikes or cease and desist anything that might hint that belongs to them.

There's a bagful of weird stuff there. Disney stuff is mostly unblocked in Canada, from what I've seen. Some things, however, they just don't care about to enact auto-block for (like how you can watch all of The Buzz on Maggie right there). Universal is usually unblocked in Germany. I've had videos that have only been blocked in countries like Russia or South Africa before, for music rights most of the time.

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