I'll also add that there's no "plagiarism" going on. This applies to Wikipedia too.
If people want to fully own their content and restrict its use they shouldn't be adding it to either Wiki. When you hit submit you agree to the terms of the Wiki and that is irrevocable.
Well, the talk of "stolen" content is nonsense, at least from their end. As with most Wikia sites, the content is available under CC-BY-SA.
This means that anyone can use their content, even a website on bad terms with it, provided that they attribute the source and share it under the same license.
So to fulfill the license, this site should simply be stating that the content was copied from LMW, and not claiming any additional copyright over it.
No contributor to the Wikia can claim full copyright as it's incompatible with the terms of the site.
Now, Lost Media Wiki uses a CC BY-NC license. This means attribution, again, as well as no entity being able to use the content for commercial purposes (i.e. a retail book). Nobody can claim full copyright or ownership to their text, again, under such a license.
This is trickier legally for the Wikia because their license doesn't prevent commercial use. So really, they shouldn't be copying Lost Media Wiki content, because it does contravene the license here. They would also need to attribute this Wiki.
So both sites are probably breaking each other's license a little bit, but the Wikia is the one that it's more troublesome for.
The only stuff I really disagree with is the things that are considered lost because the DVD is expensive or relatively rare. That's not lost, it's just not on YouTube.
The problem is that the vast majority of stuff here isn't truly lost. I used to take lost to mean genuinely unavailable anywhere, like the Cleopatra movie or the episodes of Doctor Who. Now it's extended to stuff that isn't available to the public, even if that just means it's a series that you can't watch on the internet that clearly exists in the archives of the broadcaster. That stuff isn't really lost, but it'd kill wikis like this to omit it as that's most of the stuff of interest to this generation (it seems like cartoons are the most interesting thing to most people here).
I suppose that lost really means "lost to the public" in this context.
It's theoretically possible to license some of their holdings from the BMG site at www.bmg-e-license.com, but there's no previews for the rare stuff and some of the missing content on BMI isn't listed there. You'd probably need a legitimate reason to license (not to mention paying) to get some of the unavailable content.
It seems that, while they've registered lots of older productions, only the more likely to be in demand ones are on BMG. I don't think the others are available even for professional use. For example, you can't find Essa Rios / Aguila there, and that's another lost and unreleased theme.
So a little while ago I found an artist called Carol Cleveland Sings (not the actual actress). Although they have multiple songs on their bandcamp and songfight pages, their song listings and comments on last.fm as well as twovines has led me to believe they have more music.
Could anyone help me find these tracks? I am considering messaging some people from the last.fm comments tomorrow but I thought I would see if anyone on here could find anything.
2016 EP:
1. Wishing Well (03:04) 2. Ennui (03:07) 3. Angst in My Pants (03:11) 4. I Never Dreamed (02:48) 5. High Coin (02:50)
2010 album, reissued 2015:
1. Lioness (01:59) 2. Texas (01:43) 3. Fig Leaves (03:00) 4. You Can Be The Fun (01:33) 5. Paperback Writer (02:01) 6. Blink At Surprise (02:28) 7. Building Blocks (01:36) 8. Destron (03:49) 9. I'm With Steve (02:31) 10. Cold Sweat (02:13) 11. She's On My Mind (01:59) 12. Lokiki (00:43)
Yeah, I didn't suggest it was lost. It most likely comes from the aforementioned game, so it would be interesting to see if it's really 320kbps or a transcode.
Still, for the original poster wanting to know what happened to them, I think asking the band is the best bet
Going by spectral analysis...
Yeah this looks like it was transcoded up from 128 kbps or so. I tried some other copies of the song I found on Soulseek but they were all the same as this one.
That's what I'd have thought. I predict it's the version from the game. I suppose available only in low quality is a special type of lost media, and the only chance of a higher quality version is a Daria album (unlikely now) or the band releasing it (which they may not have the rights to do) or leaking it (they don't look the type).
I have a hunch - completely uneducated - that Splendora was a project that came quite deep into their music careers. They're a touch older than I thought they would have been. It suggests to me that maybe they were in other bands, or gigging locally, for a while and happened upon the Daria gig at a late stage and ended Splendora after that. It looks like the two sisters have at least kept going with their music, though, and from Facebook at least four of the five have kept in touch (I couldn't find much on Delissa Santos). The only thing to do really is ask.
"You're Standing On My Neck" only features on the video game Daria's Inferno, so although I have no idea what sort of quality that was, it's not actually lost. The game is available at www.old-games.com/download/9012/daria-s-inferno.
It did, however, never receive a proper audio release. In The Grass is available in lossless quality on the internet, but for all 14 tracks the famous song isn't there.
Here's the people you need to approach if you want to know more:
That's four of the five band members, I imagine one will be friendly enough, I doubt many people ask them about Splendora anymore!
The link I posted above has both In the Grass and You're Standing on My Neck in 320kbps.
Yeah, I didn't suggest it was lost. It most likely comes from the aforementioned game, so it would be interesting to see if it's really 320kbps or a transcode.
Still, for the original poster wanting to know what happened to them, I think asking the band is the best bet
"You're Standing On My Neck" only features on the video game Daria's Inferno, so although I have no idea what sort of quality that was, it's not actually lost. The game is available at www.old-games.com/download/9012/daria-s-inferno.
It did, however, never receive a proper audio release. In The Grass is available in lossless quality on the internet, but for all 14 tracks the famous song isn't there.
Here's the people you need to approach if you want to know more:
Ok, there's far less I can do here, but I've found one person you could ask as a stab in the dark:
Back in 2007, a user on a Limp Bizkit fan forum said they had it and were uploading it (http://www.limpbizkit.org/index.php?showtopic=20407&page=19#entry677195). They didn't say where (maybe some internal thing they had?) and nobody really challenged them that much. Normally I'd think another hoax, but they've got over 10,000 posts there which doesn't fit in greatly with a liar. Anyway, the person has and is semi-active on Twitter - twitter.com/sidog1984 - so you may want to nudge them and ask if they really do have it. They look like a legitimate collector so I really think they're worth a try.
Some more information from a February 2004 news article:
So we now know who they are. Also Gwyn I fully assume is related to Will Knauer, the vocalist. A forum suggests he's her sister and that Grace once played keys for SSLYBY.
So the mystery of Grace and Gwyn is solved, now all you need is for someone (the earlier leads, Discogs guy, or Grace or Gwyn themselves) to release it!
Some more information from a February 2004 news article:
The eight-song EP also features three songs by vocal duo Grace & Gwyn (Grace Bentley and Gwyn Knauer), also performing tonight.
"They're really old friends of mine," says Tom Hembree, 18, who plays bass for Boris Yeltsin. "I've known them since elementary school. We've played with them before and they're really good."
So we now know who they are. Also Gwyn I fully assume is related to Will Knauer, the vocalist. A forum suggests he's her sister. Further searches reveal that Grace is Philip Dickey's wife, according to a blog posted in 2010, and she's credited on a number of SSLYBY albums as well.
I've just had a look and although I obviously couldn't find the EP, I did find two potentially useful leads. Warning, major creeping via Google ahead:
1. A user on a SSLYBY fan forum uploaded tracks from the debut EP to her web domain. It's now dead, and archive.org only lists the directory (http://web.archive.org/web/20070911052233/http://hannahrama.com/SSLYBY/Grace%20and%20Gwyn/). She also didn't upload their tracks, but it does mean she possesses it. Her website was hannahrama.com but seems to have lacked a real name. She used to go by saellys on a forum (http://sslyby.proboards.com/user/11), LiveJournal (http://saellys.livejournal.com/) and on Twitter but they're all dead now.
But, I kept persevering like the amazing internet stalker that I am, and by linking leads up I found that her real name is Hannah Sheehan. Based on information in her anonymous blog about moving to Springfield, MI, I strongly believe that I've found her on Facebook. She may still have the EP and be able to send you those tracks. Worth a try? www.facebook.com/sheehammer
2. An online blog called Skatterbrain! posted a track from the debut EP, again by SSLYBY, in 2005 (http://blownbythewind.blogspot.co.uk/2005/10/someone-still-loves-you-boris-yeltsin.html). Amazingly for a Blogspot one, it's been updated as recently as 2015. You could email and ask if they have the EP at skatterbrainpop@gmail.com although I think the first lead is stronger.
The three users to edit it in were all IPs (121.218.70.143, 121.216.35.86, 101.161.70.91). I'd wager that the first two are the same person, maybe even the third as well. Their other edits are indicative of possible hoaxes, certainly they're not big on references.
I would predict that unfortunately this is a hoax.
Discogs doesn't list this version, which is a bad sign. The Japanese release is just the album and the video for "Bodies". So if this did exist, it was very rare even in Japan - it may just be a Wikipedia hoax.