Just because something is bad or stupid or forgettable, doesnt mean it isnt "worth preserving". Like, I don't get the bias in this community. Anything is worth preserving, it will mean something to one person out there. Just because most people dont care about it doesnt mean people shouldnt bother finding it. I seriously doubt a sesame street short, or a pinwheel cartoon, is that important compared to a silent movie no one watched at the time.
Fine, then dig up the lost 90s Bill "Thrill" Hill science VHS I saw in class that I have 10000000000% no interest in seeing again.
Complaining about something is not the same as being surprised about it
Just because something is bad or stupid or forgettable, doesnt mean it isnt "worth preserving". Like, I don't get the bias in this community. Anything is worth preserving, it will mean something to one person out there. Just because most people dont care about it doesnt mean people shouldnt bother finding it. I seriously doubt a sesame street short, or a pinwheel cartoon, is that important compared to a silent movie no one watched at the time.
Fine, then dig up the lost 90s Bill "Thrill" Hill science VHS I saw in class that I have 10000000000% no interest in seeing again.
I think their point isn't that all lost media is equally important so much as it's wrong to dismiss something out of hand just because it got bad reviews. Like, yeah, given the choice between saving a lost sleazy 70s porn and Hitchcock's "The Mountain Eagle" I'd rather have the latter but that doesn't mean we should write off the former as "better off lost" and not devote any resources to it.
i know this would never happen but i wish the lost media community was more focused on finding important stuff instead of being massively spread out and searching for stuff that’s, frankly, unimportant and not really worth preserving
I think that's mostly because of the internet making communities more decentralized.
The amount of people attempting to find death footage disturbs me
Agreed, there's a reason why death is often treated as a private matter. Searching for death footage for any reason just comes off as disrespectful to the people who are affected by it.
Not to mention, I don't think people want to see that.
Sure, media should be preserved for historical reference, even the ones that no one cares about, but there's a reason why sensitive materials are often locked away and I'd rather respect any wishes of the dead and/or their family.
I think internet lost media is kinda overlooked. I dunno if it's because I'm a n00b but I see more videos and articles on traditional media being lost while the internet is somewhat ignored until recently.
At least we don't have to worry about recent internet media being lost since the web archive exists.
Post by MediaMonster on Sept 22, 2021 22:10:09 GMT
Covering lost anime is a nightmare. Honestly, this applies to almost all international media I've encountered, but the anime community is the first that comes to mind. I've seen people on Twitter complain about how "factually incorrect" the articles on the LMW are regarding anime, or they'll even complain about the lack of anime articles in general. I think that people forget that literally anyone can contribute to the site, so if they spot an error, they should correct it. (And more importantly, cite why it's incorrect)... Not to mention the language barrier. It takes me at least a few weeks to gather my sources and compile enough information to write an article for the website, depending on the complexity. So the "lack of research" comments really get on my nerves.
But there's also some really wonderful people in the community. Some of the tape collectors I've met have been incredibly generous, and have even given me some of their VHS rips to upload. (If you're reading this, thank you!!)
Just because something is bad or stupid or forgettable, doesnt mean it isnt "worth preserving". Like, I don't get the bias in this community. Anything is worth preserving, it will mean something to one person out there. Just because most people dont care about it doesnt mean people shouldnt bother finding it. I seriously doubt a sesame street short, or a pinwheel cartoon, is that important compared to a silent movie no one watched at the time.
Plus, if it's found, then it would mean that people won't have to end up making the same mistake, therefore they won't repeat history.
"Those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it" - George Santayana, 1948
I don't personally find very interesting the searches for lost YouTube content. It might be important for a lot of the people who make this community, and that's absolutely respectable, but I don't see the point in digging some video from a Youtuber. I think that this is in part due to age: many members here are under 25 and they might not find very attractive the idea of unearthing some old movie who God only knows where it can be.
I mean, none of us were alive in the 20s yet there are still searches going on for movies from the golden age.
I think this is more for historical reasons and because we naturally will go mad if we can't find something that peaks our churiosity. Reason why old youtube videos are being searched for.
I don't personally find very interesting the searches for lost YouTube content. It might be important for a lot of the people who make this community, and that's absolutely respectable, but I don't see the point in digging some video from a Youtuber. I think that this is in part due to age: many members here are under 25 and they might not find very attractive the idea of unearthing some old movie who God only knows where it can be.
I mean, none of us were alive in the 20s yet there are still searches going on for movies from the golden age.
I think this is more for historical reasons and because we naturally will go mad if we can't find something that peaks our churiosity. Reason why old youtube videos are being searched for.
I admit I was making a sweeping statement here. As I wrote previously, I really think that the lack of interest is due to the fact that is easier to look up for a deleted YouTube video (which someone might have a copy stored in a hard drive) than trying to find a movie nobody has seen for the last 50 years and might be rotting to dust in some warehouse. With the latter you can't just go to Google and that's it; you would need to go outside and start asking in film archives and libraries and so on.
Covering lost anime is a nightmare. Honestly, this applies to almost all international media I've encountered, but the anime community is the first that comes to mind. I've seen people on Twitter complain about how "factually incorrect" the articles on the LMW are regarding anime, or they'll even complain about the lack of anime articles in general. I think that people forget that literally anyone can contribute to the site, so if they spot an error, they should correct it. (And more importantly, cite why it's incorrect)... Not to mention the language barrier. It takes me at least a few weeks to gather my sources and compile enough information to write an article for the website, depending on the complexity. So the "lack of research" comments really get on my nerves.
But there's also some really wonderful people in the community. Some of the tape collectors I've met have been incredibly generous, and have even given me some of their VHS rips to upload. (If you're reading this, thank you!!)
Yeah, the anime community seems to have a weird hate-complex for the LMW. I recently watched a lost media parody video from an anime YouTuber called MercuryFalcon (which is a funny video, by a funny guy, with a great channel. No shade to him) and MANY comments were from people making fun of the LMW. If people that passionate helped to refine the lost media wiki's anime articles we would unanimously praise their work, i'm sure (at least if their info is as sound as they claim). So perhaps they're too lazy, they don't have the info they claim to have (or maybe they're parroting what others say about the wiki), or they just don't care that much about lost media in the first place. Regardless of which of the three they fall under, they should really put up or shut up. Also the reason there aren't that many articles on anime, is because many lost anime don't have enough info to even fill an article.
I am a little bit of a slight piece of a miniature teeny-tiny fraction of a half-sized hob-goblin.
Fine, then dig up the lost 90s Bill "Thrill" Hill science VHS I saw in class that I have 10000000000% no interest in seeing again.
I think their point isn't that all lost media is equally important so much as it's wrong to dismiss something out of hand just because it got bad reviews. Like, yeah, given the choice between saving a lost sleazy 70s porn and Hitchcock's "The Mountain Eagle" I'd rather have the latter but that doesn't mean we should write off the former as "better off lost" and not devote any resources to it.
I wish lost anime/dubs were given more of a priority. I found one recently and I'm trying to figure out how to spread awareness for it so it can be documented well for the future and so we don't lose it. I have a dubs edited footage that really hasnt really been released well. I'm surprised things like 4kids Ultraman Tiga dub is lost with a few eps and supposedly they dubbed all 52 eps. We need milk creak to release it!
Last Edit: Sept 23, 2021 18:08:33 GMT by bluebaron
Covering lost anime is a nightmare. Honestly, this applies to almost all international media I've encountered, but the anime community is the first that comes to mind. I've seen people on Twitter complain about how "factually incorrect" the articles on the LMW are regarding anime, or they'll even complain about the lack of anime articles in general. I think that people forget that literally anyone can contribute to the site, so if they spot an error, they should correct it. (And more importantly, cite why it's incorrect)... Not to mention the language barrier. It takes me at least a few weeks to gather my sources and compile enough information to write an article for the website, depending on the complexity. So the "lack of research" comments really get on my nerves.
But there's also some really wonderful people in the community. Some of the tape collectors I've met have been incredibly generous, and have even given me some of their VHS rips to upload. (If you're reading this, thank you!!)
I agree wholeheartedly.
This is the double-edged sword with having an open community and it can be very frustrating that some will nitpick at some errors in reporting, but not make the appropriate corrections or tip someone off to resolve it if you can't for some reason. While I appreciate lost anime content, I know fuck all about it and the back breaking amounts of research that can go into it and I tip my hat to people like yourself who go the extra mile for it. You guys don't get enough appreciation.
Covering lost anime is a nightmare. Honestly, this applies to almost all international media I've encountered, but the anime community is the first that comes to mind. I've seen people on Twitter complain about how "factually incorrect" the articles on the LMW are regarding anime, or they'll even complain about the lack of anime articles in general. I think that people forget that literally anyone can contribute to the site, so if they spot an error, they should correct it. (And more importantly, cite why it's incorrect)... Not to mention the language barrier. It takes me at least a few weeks to gather my sources and compile enough information to write an article for the website, depending on the complexity. So the "lack of research" comments really get on my nerves.
But there's also some really wonderful people in the community. Some of the tape collectors I've met have been incredibly generous, and have even given me some of their VHS rips to upload. (If you're reading this, thank you!!)
Oh yeah, definitely. When it comes to stuff in different languages, it is really hard to find information of it as the information will most likely be in that language it was originally in, & people who don't speak that language won't be able to see it without having to use translation tools which might not give out an accurate translation(Google Translate uses literal translations which is a HUGE problem).
Heck, in some cases, it WAS originally made in the language that someone could speak, but most of what exists of it is in a different language(no, seriously, go look up Timberwood Tales, & look at the many comments in Spanish).
Post by lostmediasearcher on Sept 25, 2021 7:05:45 GMT
Wow, I honestly don't check out the anime articles (mostly because anime does not have it's own category) so I'm surprised that we're actually pretty bad at covering it. Can someone link to an article to show me an example of a bad anime article? I'm super curious.